Countable discontinuities and pointwise convergence
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If $f_n$ converges pointwise to $f$ and each $f_n$ has a countable number of discontinuities, what is a counterexample to $f$ also having a countable number of discontinuities?
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If $f_n$ converges pointwise to $f$ and each $f_n$ has a countable number of discontinuities, what is a counterexample to $f$ also having a countable number of discontinuities?
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If $f_n$ converges pointwise to $f$ and each $f_n$ has a countable number of discontinuities, what is a counterexample to $f$ also having a countable number of discontinuities?
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If $f_n$ converges pointwise to $f$ and each $f_n$ has a countable number of discontinuities, what is a counterexample to $f$ also having a countable number of discontinuities?
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asked Sep 21 '17 at 19:51
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Let $a_i$ be an enumeration of $[0,1] cap mathbbQ$ and let $f_n$ be defined on $[0,1]$ so that
$$f_n(x) = textbf1_a_i : i<n$$ which converges pointwise to $textbf1_[0,1] cap mathbbQ(x)$ and is discontinuous on all of $[0,1]$.
I would think that function has $ mathbbQ $ discontinuities which is countable, why does it instead have a discontinuity at every real in $[0,1]$ ?
â Salamander
Sep 21 '17 at 20:22
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@Salamander No, it's discontinuous at every real in $[0,1]$. Since $[0,1] cap mathbbQ$ and $[0,1] setminus mathbbQ$ are dense in $[0,1]$,for any $x_0 in [0,1]$ and any neighbourhood $(x_0 - delta, x_0 + delta)$ we can see that $f$ is jumping between $1$ and $0$, hence no continuity.
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Sep 21 '17 at 20:25
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1 Answer
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active
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up vote
4
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Let $a_i$ be an enumeration of $[0,1] cap mathbbQ$ and let $f_n$ be defined on $[0,1]$ so that
$$f_n(x) = textbf1_a_i : i<n$$ which converges pointwise to $textbf1_[0,1] cap mathbbQ(x)$ and is discontinuous on all of $[0,1]$.
I would think that function has $ mathbbQ $ discontinuities which is countable, why does it instead have a discontinuity at every real in $[0,1]$ ?
â Salamander
Sep 21 '17 at 20:22
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@Salamander No, it's discontinuous at every real in $[0,1]$. Since $[0,1] cap mathbbQ$ and $[0,1] setminus mathbbQ$ are dense in $[0,1]$,for any $x_0 in [0,1]$ and any neighbourhood $(x_0 - delta, x_0 + delta)$ we can see that $f$ is jumping between $1$ and $0$, hence no continuity.
â MathematicsStudent1122
Sep 21 '17 at 20:25
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4
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Let $a_i$ be an enumeration of $[0,1] cap mathbbQ$ and let $f_n$ be defined on $[0,1]$ so that
$$f_n(x) = textbf1_a_i : i<n$$ which converges pointwise to $textbf1_[0,1] cap mathbbQ(x)$ and is discontinuous on all of $[0,1]$.
I would think that function has $ mathbbQ $ discontinuities which is countable, why does it instead have a discontinuity at every real in $[0,1]$ ?
â Salamander
Sep 21 '17 at 20:22
1
@Salamander No, it's discontinuous at every real in $[0,1]$. Since $[0,1] cap mathbbQ$ and $[0,1] setminus mathbbQ$ are dense in $[0,1]$,for any $x_0 in [0,1]$ and any neighbourhood $(x_0 - delta, x_0 + delta)$ we can see that $f$ is jumping between $1$ and $0$, hence no continuity.
â MathematicsStudent1122
Sep 21 '17 at 20:25
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up vote
4
down vote
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up vote
4
down vote
accepted
Let $a_i$ be an enumeration of $[0,1] cap mathbbQ$ and let $f_n$ be defined on $[0,1]$ so that
$$f_n(x) = textbf1_a_i : i<n$$ which converges pointwise to $textbf1_[0,1] cap mathbbQ(x)$ and is discontinuous on all of $[0,1]$.
Let $a_i$ be an enumeration of $[0,1] cap mathbbQ$ and let $f_n$ be defined on $[0,1]$ so that
$$f_n(x) = textbf1_a_i : i<n$$ which converges pointwise to $textbf1_[0,1] cap mathbbQ(x)$ and is discontinuous on all of $[0,1]$.
edited Aug 30 at 7:02
Santosh Linkha
9,46922751
9,46922751
answered Sep 21 '17 at 20:03
MathematicsStudent1122
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I would think that function has $ mathbbQ $ discontinuities which is countable, why does it instead have a discontinuity at every real in $[0,1]$ ?
â Salamander
Sep 21 '17 at 20:22
1
@Salamander No, it's discontinuous at every real in $[0,1]$. Since $[0,1] cap mathbbQ$ and $[0,1] setminus mathbbQ$ are dense in $[0,1]$,for any $x_0 in [0,1]$ and any neighbourhood $(x_0 - delta, x_0 + delta)$ we can see that $f$ is jumping between $1$ and $0$, hence no continuity.
â MathematicsStudent1122
Sep 21 '17 at 20:25
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I would think that function has $ mathbbQ $ discontinuities which is countable, why does it instead have a discontinuity at every real in $[0,1]$ ?
â Salamander
Sep 21 '17 at 20:22
1
@Salamander No, it's discontinuous at every real in $[0,1]$. Since $[0,1] cap mathbbQ$ and $[0,1] setminus mathbbQ$ are dense in $[0,1]$,for any $x_0 in [0,1]$ and any neighbourhood $(x_0 - delta, x_0 + delta)$ we can see that $f$ is jumping between $1$ and $0$, hence no continuity.
â MathematicsStudent1122
Sep 21 '17 at 20:25
I would think that function has $ mathbbQ $ discontinuities which is countable, why does it instead have a discontinuity at every real in $[0,1]$ ?
â Salamander
Sep 21 '17 at 20:22
I would think that function has $ mathbbQ $ discontinuities which is countable, why does it instead have a discontinuity at every real in $[0,1]$ ?
â Salamander
Sep 21 '17 at 20:22
1
1
@Salamander No, it's discontinuous at every real in $[0,1]$. Since $[0,1] cap mathbbQ$ and $[0,1] setminus mathbbQ$ are dense in $[0,1]$,for any $x_0 in [0,1]$ and any neighbourhood $(x_0 - delta, x_0 + delta)$ we can see that $f$ is jumping between $1$ and $0$, hence no continuity.
â MathematicsStudent1122
Sep 21 '17 at 20:25
@Salamander No, it's discontinuous at every real in $[0,1]$. Since $[0,1] cap mathbbQ$ and $[0,1] setminus mathbbQ$ are dense in $[0,1]$,for any $x_0 in [0,1]$ and any neighbourhood $(x_0 - delta, x_0 + delta)$ we can see that $f$ is jumping between $1$ and $0$, hence no continuity.
â MathematicsStudent1122
Sep 21 '17 at 20:25
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