Solve $(x+y log y)y, mathrmdx=(y+x log x)x ,mathrmdy$

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Solve the differential equation $$(x+y log y)y ,mathrmdx=(y+x log x)x ,mathrmdy$$



My try: put $x=e^t$ and $y =e^w$: we get



$$(e^t+w e^w)e^w e^t ,mathrmdt=(e^w+te^t)e^we^t,mathrmdwimplies
(e^t+we^w),mathrmdt=(e^w+te^t),mathrmdw$$



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  • Is $y$ a function of $x$?
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  • Yes it's an implicit function
    – Ekaveera Kumar Sharma
    Sep 6 at 8:07






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    Just an observation: by symmetry $y(x) = x$ works.
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  • Yes but y=x only in first quadrant
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  • Yes sure, because both $y$ and $x$ must be positive.
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Solve the differential equation $$(x+y log y)y ,mathrmdx=(y+x log x)x ,mathrmdy$$



My try: put $x=e^t$ and $y =e^w$: we get



$$(e^t+w e^w)e^w e^t ,mathrmdt=(e^w+te^t)e^we^t,mathrmdwimplies
(e^t+we^w),mathrmdt=(e^w+te^t),mathrmdw$$



Any clue here?










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  • Is $y$ a function of $x$?
    – user496634
    Sep 6 at 8:03










  • Yes it's an implicit function
    – Ekaveera Kumar Sharma
    Sep 6 at 8:07






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    Just an observation: by symmetry $y(x) = x$ works.
    – Gibbs
    Sep 6 at 8:49










  • Yes but y=x only in first quadrant
    – Ekaveera Kumar Sharma
    Sep 6 at 8:56










  • Yes sure, because both $y$ and $x$ must be positive.
    – Gibbs
    Sep 6 at 8:57












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Solve the differential equation $$(x+y log y)y ,mathrmdx=(y+x log x)x ,mathrmdy$$



My try: put $x=e^t$ and $y =e^w$: we get



$$(e^t+w e^w)e^w e^t ,mathrmdt=(e^w+te^t)e^we^t,mathrmdwimplies
(e^t+we^w),mathrmdt=(e^w+te^t),mathrmdw$$



Any clue here?










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Solve the differential equation $$(x+y log y)y ,mathrmdx=(y+x log x)x ,mathrmdy$$



My try: put $x=e^t$ and $y =e^w$: we get



$$(e^t+w e^w)e^w e^t ,mathrmdt=(e^w+te^t)e^we^t,mathrmdwimplies
(e^t+we^w),mathrmdt=(e^w+te^t),mathrmdw$$



Any clue here?







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  • Is $y$ a function of $x$?
    – user496634
    Sep 6 at 8:03










  • Yes it's an implicit function
    – Ekaveera Kumar Sharma
    Sep 6 at 8:07






  • 1




    Just an observation: by symmetry $y(x) = x$ works.
    – Gibbs
    Sep 6 at 8:49










  • Yes but y=x only in first quadrant
    – Ekaveera Kumar Sharma
    Sep 6 at 8:56










  • Yes sure, because both $y$ and $x$ must be positive.
    – Gibbs
    Sep 6 at 8:57
















  • Is $y$ a function of $x$?
    – user496634
    Sep 6 at 8:03










  • Yes it's an implicit function
    – Ekaveera Kumar Sharma
    Sep 6 at 8:07






  • 1




    Just an observation: by symmetry $y(x) = x$ works.
    – Gibbs
    Sep 6 at 8:49










  • Yes but y=x only in first quadrant
    – Ekaveera Kumar Sharma
    Sep 6 at 8:56










  • Yes sure, because both $y$ and $x$ must be positive.
    – Gibbs
    Sep 6 at 8:57















Is $y$ a function of $x$?
– user496634
Sep 6 at 8:03




Is $y$ a function of $x$?
– user496634
Sep 6 at 8:03












Yes it's an implicit function
– Ekaveera Kumar Sharma
Sep 6 at 8:07




Yes it's an implicit function
– Ekaveera Kumar Sharma
Sep 6 at 8:07




1




1




Just an observation: by symmetry $y(x) = x$ works.
– Gibbs
Sep 6 at 8:49




Just an observation: by symmetry $y(x) = x$ works.
– Gibbs
Sep 6 at 8:49












Yes but y=x only in first quadrant
– Ekaveera Kumar Sharma
Sep 6 at 8:56




Yes but y=x only in first quadrant
– Ekaveera Kumar Sharma
Sep 6 at 8:56












Yes sure, because both $y$ and $x$ must be positive.
– Gibbs
Sep 6 at 8:57




Yes sure, because both $y$ and $x$ must be positive.
– Gibbs
Sep 6 at 8:57










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We have the following differential equation:




$$(x+y log y)y ,mathrmdx=(y+x log x)x ,mathrmdy$$




Rearranging the terms, we get:



$$implies xymathrmdx+y^2log(y)mathrmdx=xymathrmdy+x^2log(x)mathrmdy$$
$$implies-x^2log(x)mathrmdy+xymathrmdx=-y^2log(y)mathrmdx+xymathrmdy$$
$$implies x(-xlog(x)mathrmdy+ymathrmdx)=y(-ylog(y)mathrmdx+xmathrmdy)$$



Dividing both sides by the term $x^2y^2$, we get:



$$implies frac(-xlog(x)mathrmdy+ymathrmdx)xy^2=frac(-ylog(y)mathrmdx+xmathrmdy)x^2y$$
$$implies left(-frac1y^2mathrmdyright)log(x)+left(frac1xmathrmdxright)frac1y=left(-frac1x^2mathrmdxright)log(y)+left(frac1ymathrmdyright)frac1x$$
$$implies mathrmdleft(frac1yright)log(x)+mathrmdleft(log(x)right)frac1y=mathrmdleft(frac1xright)log(y)+mathrmdleft(log(y)right)frac1x$$
$$implies mathrmdleft(frac1ylog(x)right)=mathrmdleft(frac1xlog(y)right)$$



Integrating both sides, we get:



$$implies int mathrmdleft(frac1ylog(x)right)=int mathrmdleft(frac1xlog(y)right)$$



We get the solution as: $$colordarkbluefrac1ylog(x)=frac1xlog(y)+C$$



Where $C$ is the integration constant. This is the implicit solution.



Edit: As shown by @Claude Leibovici, the solution can be converted to an explicit one using Lambert $W$ function. The solution is as follows:



Rearranging the above equation, we get:



$$implies fracxylog(x)=log(y)+Cx$$



Taking exponential of both sides, we have:



$$implies expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=expleft(log(y)right)expleft(Cxright)$$



$$implies expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=yexpleft(Cxright)$$



Multiplying both sides by $fracxylog(x)$, we have:



$$implies fracxylog(x)expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=xexpleft(Cxright)log(x)$$



If we consider $fracxylog(x)$ as $u$, the above equation reduces to $ue^u=K$ and can be represented by Lambert $W$ function as $u=W(K)$, so we have:



$$implies fracxylog(x)=Wleft(xexpleft(Cxright)log(x)right)$$
$$implies colordarkgreeny=fracx log (x)Wleft(x e^Cx log (x)right)$$



where $W(.)$ is Lambert function. This is the explicit solution.






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    perfect, clean and well formated answer
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    Nice solution, for sure ! $to +1$
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 6 at 13:19










  • @ClaudeLeibovici and Matěj, Thank you :)
    – paulplusx
    Sep 6 at 14:55






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    May be, you could add to your good answer that the final solution is $$y=fracx log (x)Wleft(x e^c x log (x)right)$$. where $W(.)$ is Lambert function.
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 7 at 2:24






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    Try to learn about Lambert function. It allows to solve explicitly so many problems. Just search of this site Lambert function; 2277 posts ! It heps to solve a huge number of problems in mathematics, physics, chemistry, biochemistry and so on. Just for your curiosity, Euler and Lambert worked together.
    – Claude Leibovici
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We have the following differential equation:




$$(x+y log y)y ,mathrmdx=(y+x log x)x ,mathrmdy$$




Rearranging the terms, we get:



$$implies xymathrmdx+y^2log(y)mathrmdx=xymathrmdy+x^2log(x)mathrmdy$$
$$implies-x^2log(x)mathrmdy+xymathrmdx=-y^2log(y)mathrmdx+xymathrmdy$$
$$implies x(-xlog(x)mathrmdy+ymathrmdx)=y(-ylog(y)mathrmdx+xmathrmdy)$$



Dividing both sides by the term $x^2y^2$, we get:



$$implies frac(-xlog(x)mathrmdy+ymathrmdx)xy^2=frac(-ylog(y)mathrmdx+xmathrmdy)x^2y$$
$$implies left(-frac1y^2mathrmdyright)log(x)+left(frac1xmathrmdxright)frac1y=left(-frac1x^2mathrmdxright)log(y)+left(frac1ymathrmdyright)frac1x$$
$$implies mathrmdleft(frac1yright)log(x)+mathrmdleft(log(x)right)frac1y=mathrmdleft(frac1xright)log(y)+mathrmdleft(log(y)right)frac1x$$
$$implies mathrmdleft(frac1ylog(x)right)=mathrmdleft(frac1xlog(y)right)$$



Integrating both sides, we get:



$$implies int mathrmdleft(frac1ylog(x)right)=int mathrmdleft(frac1xlog(y)right)$$



We get the solution as: $$colordarkbluefrac1ylog(x)=frac1xlog(y)+C$$



Where $C$ is the integration constant. This is the implicit solution.



Edit: As shown by @Claude Leibovici, the solution can be converted to an explicit one using Lambert $W$ function. The solution is as follows:



Rearranging the above equation, we get:



$$implies fracxylog(x)=log(y)+Cx$$



Taking exponential of both sides, we have:



$$implies expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=expleft(log(y)right)expleft(Cxright)$$



$$implies expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=yexpleft(Cxright)$$



Multiplying both sides by $fracxylog(x)$, we have:



$$implies fracxylog(x)expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=xexpleft(Cxright)log(x)$$



If we consider $fracxylog(x)$ as $u$, the above equation reduces to $ue^u=K$ and can be represented by Lambert $W$ function as $u=W(K)$, so we have:



$$implies fracxylog(x)=Wleft(xexpleft(Cxright)log(x)right)$$
$$implies colordarkgreeny=fracx log (x)Wleft(x e^Cx log (x)right)$$



where $W(.)$ is Lambert function. This is the explicit solution.






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    perfect, clean and well formated answer
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    Nice solution, for sure ! $to +1$
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 6 at 13:19










  • @ClaudeLeibovici and Matěj, Thank you :)
    – paulplusx
    Sep 6 at 14:55






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    May be, you could add to your good answer that the final solution is $$y=fracx log (x)Wleft(x e^c x log (x)right)$$. where $W(.)$ is Lambert function.
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 7 at 2:24






  • 1




    Try to learn about Lambert function. It allows to solve explicitly so many problems. Just search of this site Lambert function; 2277 posts ! It heps to solve a huge number of problems in mathematics, physics, chemistry, biochemistry and so on. Just for your curiosity, Euler and Lambert worked together.
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 7 at 4:06














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We have the following differential equation:




$$(x+y log y)y ,mathrmdx=(y+x log x)x ,mathrmdy$$




Rearranging the terms, we get:



$$implies xymathrmdx+y^2log(y)mathrmdx=xymathrmdy+x^2log(x)mathrmdy$$
$$implies-x^2log(x)mathrmdy+xymathrmdx=-y^2log(y)mathrmdx+xymathrmdy$$
$$implies x(-xlog(x)mathrmdy+ymathrmdx)=y(-ylog(y)mathrmdx+xmathrmdy)$$



Dividing both sides by the term $x^2y^2$, we get:



$$implies frac(-xlog(x)mathrmdy+ymathrmdx)xy^2=frac(-ylog(y)mathrmdx+xmathrmdy)x^2y$$
$$implies left(-frac1y^2mathrmdyright)log(x)+left(frac1xmathrmdxright)frac1y=left(-frac1x^2mathrmdxright)log(y)+left(frac1ymathrmdyright)frac1x$$
$$implies mathrmdleft(frac1yright)log(x)+mathrmdleft(log(x)right)frac1y=mathrmdleft(frac1xright)log(y)+mathrmdleft(log(y)right)frac1x$$
$$implies mathrmdleft(frac1ylog(x)right)=mathrmdleft(frac1xlog(y)right)$$



Integrating both sides, we get:



$$implies int mathrmdleft(frac1ylog(x)right)=int mathrmdleft(frac1xlog(y)right)$$



We get the solution as: $$colordarkbluefrac1ylog(x)=frac1xlog(y)+C$$



Where $C$ is the integration constant. This is the implicit solution.



Edit: As shown by @Claude Leibovici, the solution can be converted to an explicit one using Lambert $W$ function. The solution is as follows:



Rearranging the above equation, we get:



$$implies fracxylog(x)=log(y)+Cx$$



Taking exponential of both sides, we have:



$$implies expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=expleft(log(y)right)expleft(Cxright)$$



$$implies expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=yexpleft(Cxright)$$



Multiplying both sides by $fracxylog(x)$, we have:



$$implies fracxylog(x)expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=xexpleft(Cxright)log(x)$$



If we consider $fracxylog(x)$ as $u$, the above equation reduces to $ue^u=K$ and can be represented by Lambert $W$ function as $u=W(K)$, so we have:



$$implies fracxylog(x)=Wleft(xexpleft(Cxright)log(x)right)$$
$$implies colordarkgreeny=fracx log (x)Wleft(x e^Cx log (x)right)$$



where $W(.)$ is Lambert function. This is the explicit solution.






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    perfect, clean and well formated answer
    – Matěj Å tágl
    Sep 6 at 12:09






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    Nice solution, for sure ! $to +1$
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 6 at 13:19










  • @ClaudeLeibovici and Matěj, Thank you :)
    – paulplusx
    Sep 6 at 14:55






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    May be, you could add to your good answer that the final solution is $$y=fracx log (x)Wleft(x e^c x log (x)right)$$. where $W(.)$ is Lambert function.
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 7 at 2:24






  • 1




    Try to learn about Lambert function. It allows to solve explicitly so many problems. Just search of this site Lambert function; 2277 posts ! It heps to solve a huge number of problems in mathematics, physics, chemistry, biochemistry and so on. Just for your curiosity, Euler and Lambert worked together.
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 7 at 4:06












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We have the following differential equation:




$$(x+y log y)y ,mathrmdx=(y+x log x)x ,mathrmdy$$




Rearranging the terms, we get:



$$implies xymathrmdx+y^2log(y)mathrmdx=xymathrmdy+x^2log(x)mathrmdy$$
$$implies-x^2log(x)mathrmdy+xymathrmdx=-y^2log(y)mathrmdx+xymathrmdy$$
$$implies x(-xlog(x)mathrmdy+ymathrmdx)=y(-ylog(y)mathrmdx+xmathrmdy)$$



Dividing both sides by the term $x^2y^2$, we get:



$$implies frac(-xlog(x)mathrmdy+ymathrmdx)xy^2=frac(-ylog(y)mathrmdx+xmathrmdy)x^2y$$
$$implies left(-frac1y^2mathrmdyright)log(x)+left(frac1xmathrmdxright)frac1y=left(-frac1x^2mathrmdxright)log(y)+left(frac1ymathrmdyright)frac1x$$
$$implies mathrmdleft(frac1yright)log(x)+mathrmdleft(log(x)right)frac1y=mathrmdleft(frac1xright)log(y)+mathrmdleft(log(y)right)frac1x$$
$$implies mathrmdleft(frac1ylog(x)right)=mathrmdleft(frac1xlog(y)right)$$



Integrating both sides, we get:



$$implies int mathrmdleft(frac1ylog(x)right)=int mathrmdleft(frac1xlog(y)right)$$



We get the solution as: $$colordarkbluefrac1ylog(x)=frac1xlog(y)+C$$



Where $C$ is the integration constant. This is the implicit solution.



Edit: As shown by @Claude Leibovici, the solution can be converted to an explicit one using Lambert $W$ function. The solution is as follows:



Rearranging the above equation, we get:



$$implies fracxylog(x)=log(y)+Cx$$



Taking exponential of both sides, we have:



$$implies expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=expleft(log(y)right)expleft(Cxright)$$



$$implies expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=yexpleft(Cxright)$$



Multiplying both sides by $fracxylog(x)$, we have:



$$implies fracxylog(x)expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=xexpleft(Cxright)log(x)$$



If we consider $fracxylog(x)$ as $u$, the above equation reduces to $ue^u=K$ and can be represented by Lambert $W$ function as $u=W(K)$, so we have:



$$implies fracxylog(x)=Wleft(xexpleft(Cxright)log(x)right)$$
$$implies colordarkgreeny=fracx log (x)Wleft(x e^Cx log (x)right)$$



where $W(.)$ is Lambert function. This is the explicit solution.






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We have the following differential equation:




$$(x+y log y)y ,mathrmdx=(y+x log x)x ,mathrmdy$$




Rearranging the terms, we get:



$$implies xymathrmdx+y^2log(y)mathrmdx=xymathrmdy+x^2log(x)mathrmdy$$
$$implies-x^2log(x)mathrmdy+xymathrmdx=-y^2log(y)mathrmdx+xymathrmdy$$
$$implies x(-xlog(x)mathrmdy+ymathrmdx)=y(-ylog(y)mathrmdx+xmathrmdy)$$



Dividing both sides by the term $x^2y^2$, we get:



$$implies frac(-xlog(x)mathrmdy+ymathrmdx)xy^2=frac(-ylog(y)mathrmdx+xmathrmdy)x^2y$$
$$implies left(-frac1y^2mathrmdyright)log(x)+left(frac1xmathrmdxright)frac1y=left(-frac1x^2mathrmdxright)log(y)+left(frac1ymathrmdyright)frac1x$$
$$implies mathrmdleft(frac1yright)log(x)+mathrmdleft(log(x)right)frac1y=mathrmdleft(frac1xright)log(y)+mathrmdleft(log(y)right)frac1x$$
$$implies mathrmdleft(frac1ylog(x)right)=mathrmdleft(frac1xlog(y)right)$$



Integrating both sides, we get:



$$implies int mathrmdleft(frac1ylog(x)right)=int mathrmdleft(frac1xlog(y)right)$$



We get the solution as: $$colordarkbluefrac1ylog(x)=frac1xlog(y)+C$$



Where $C$ is the integration constant. This is the implicit solution.



Edit: As shown by @Claude Leibovici, the solution can be converted to an explicit one using Lambert $W$ function. The solution is as follows:



Rearranging the above equation, we get:



$$implies fracxylog(x)=log(y)+Cx$$



Taking exponential of both sides, we have:



$$implies expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=expleft(log(y)right)expleft(Cxright)$$



$$implies expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=yexpleft(Cxright)$$



Multiplying both sides by $fracxylog(x)$, we have:



$$implies fracxylog(x)expleft(fracxylog(x)right)=xexpleft(Cxright)log(x)$$



If we consider $fracxylog(x)$ as $u$, the above equation reduces to $ue^u=K$ and can be represented by Lambert $W$ function as $u=W(K)$, so we have:



$$implies fracxylog(x)=Wleft(xexpleft(Cxright)log(x)right)$$
$$implies colordarkgreeny=fracx log (x)Wleft(x e^Cx log (x)right)$$



where $W(.)$ is Lambert function. This is the explicit solution.







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    perfect, clean and well formated answer
    – Matěj Å tágl
    Sep 6 at 12:09






  • 1




    Nice solution, for sure ! $to +1$
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 6 at 13:19










  • @ClaudeLeibovici and Matěj, Thank you :)
    – paulplusx
    Sep 6 at 14:55






  • 1




    May be, you could add to your good answer that the final solution is $$y=fracx log (x)Wleft(x e^c x log (x)right)$$. where $W(.)$ is Lambert function.
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 7 at 2:24






  • 1




    Try to learn about Lambert function. It allows to solve explicitly so many problems. Just search of this site Lambert function; 2277 posts ! It heps to solve a huge number of problems in mathematics, physics, chemistry, biochemistry and so on. Just for your curiosity, Euler and Lambert worked together.
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 7 at 4:06












  • 3




    perfect, clean and well formated answer
    – Matěj Å tágl
    Sep 6 at 12:09






  • 1




    Nice solution, for sure ! $to +1$
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 6 at 13:19










  • @ClaudeLeibovici and Matěj, Thank you :)
    – paulplusx
    Sep 6 at 14:55






  • 1




    May be, you could add to your good answer that the final solution is $$y=fracx log (x)Wleft(x e^c x log (x)right)$$. where $W(.)$ is Lambert function.
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 7 at 2:24






  • 1




    Try to learn about Lambert function. It allows to solve explicitly so many problems. Just search of this site Lambert function; 2277 posts ! It heps to solve a huge number of problems in mathematics, physics, chemistry, biochemistry and so on. Just for your curiosity, Euler and Lambert worked together.
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 7 at 4:06







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perfect, clean and well formated answer
– Matěj Å tágl
Sep 6 at 12:09




perfect, clean and well formated answer
– Matěj Å tágl
Sep 6 at 12:09




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Nice solution, for sure ! $to +1$
– Claude Leibovici
Sep 6 at 13:19




Nice solution, for sure ! $to +1$
– Claude Leibovici
Sep 6 at 13:19












@ClaudeLeibovici and Matěj, Thank you :)
– paulplusx
Sep 6 at 14:55




@ClaudeLeibovici and Matěj, Thank you :)
– paulplusx
Sep 6 at 14:55




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May be, you could add to your good answer that the final solution is $$y=fracx log (x)Wleft(x e^c x log (x)right)$$. where $W(.)$ is Lambert function.
– Claude Leibovici
Sep 7 at 2:24




May be, you could add to your good answer that the final solution is $$y=fracx log (x)Wleft(x e^c x log (x)right)$$. where $W(.)$ is Lambert function.
– Claude Leibovici
Sep 7 at 2:24




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Try to learn about Lambert function. It allows to solve explicitly so many problems. Just search of this site Lambert function; 2277 posts ! It heps to solve a huge number of problems in mathematics, physics, chemistry, biochemistry and so on. Just for your curiosity, Euler and Lambert worked together.
– Claude Leibovici
Sep 7 at 4:06




Try to learn about Lambert function. It allows to solve explicitly so many problems. Just search of this site Lambert function; 2277 posts ! It heps to solve a huge number of problems in mathematics, physics, chemistry, biochemistry and so on. Just for your curiosity, Euler and Lambert worked together.
– Claude Leibovici
Sep 7 at 4:06

















 

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