What is a sequence that gets closer and closer to a without converging to a?
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Find a sequence $a_n$ and a real number $a$ so that $|a_n+1-a| < |a_n-a|$ for each n, but $a_n$ does not converge to $a$. So the sequence gets closer and closer to $a$ without converging to $a$.
I have seen many questions posted here asking how to find a sequence that converges to $a$ without getting closer and closer to $a$, so this question is kind of the opposite. My intuition is telling me that I need to find a function that increases slower and slower but continues to increase. Any and all help is appreciated- thank you!
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Find a sequence $a_n$ and a real number $a$ so that $|a_n+1-a| < |a_n-a|$ for each n, but $a_n$ does not converge to $a$. So the sequence gets closer and closer to $a$ without converging to $a$.
I have seen many questions posted here asking how to find a sequence that converges to $a$ without getting closer and closer to $a$, so this question is kind of the opposite. My intuition is telling me that I need to find a function that increases slower and slower but continues to increase. Any and all help is appreciated- thank you!
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Hint: it can converge to something other than a. Say it converges to 1. Then a sequence that gets closer and closer but always more than 1 gets closer and closer to any number less than 1. Btw, I've never seen a question of a sequence that converges but doesn't get close.
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Find a sequence $a_n$ and a real number $a$ so that $|a_n+1-a| < |a_n-a|$ for each n, but $a_n$ does not converge to $a$. So the sequence gets closer and closer to $a$ without converging to $a$.
I have seen many questions posted here asking how to find a sequence that converges to $a$ without getting closer and closer to $a$, so this question is kind of the opposite. My intuition is telling me that I need to find a function that increases slower and slower but continues to increase. Any and all help is appreciated- thank you!
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Find a sequence $a_n$ and a real number $a$ so that $|a_n+1-a| < |a_n-a|$ for each n, but $a_n$ does not converge to $a$. So the sequence gets closer and closer to $a$ without converging to $a$.
I have seen many questions posted here asking how to find a sequence that converges to $a$ without getting closer and closer to $a$, so this question is kind of the opposite. My intuition is telling me that I need to find a function that increases slower and slower but continues to increase. Any and all help is appreciated- thank you!
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Hint: it can converge to something other than a. Say it converges to 1. Then a sequence that gets closer and closer but always more than 1 gets closer and closer to any number less than 1. Btw, I've never seen a question of a sequence that converges but doesn't get close.
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Sep 11 at 2:44
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Hint: it can converge to something other than a. Say it converges to 1. Then a sequence that gets closer and closer but always more than 1 gets closer and closer to any number less than 1. Btw, I've never seen a question of a sequence that converges but doesn't get close.
– fleablood
Sep 11 at 2:44
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Hint: it can converge to something other than a. Say it converges to 1. Then a sequence that gets closer and closer but always more than 1 gets closer and closer to any number less than 1. Btw, I've never seen a question of a sequence that converges but doesn't get close.
– fleablood
Sep 11 at 2:44
Hint: it can converge to something other than a. Say it converges to 1. Then a sequence that gets closer and closer but always more than 1 gets closer and closer to any number less than 1. Btw, I've never seen a question of a sequence that converges but doesn't get close.
– fleablood
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You can simply take $a=0$ and $a_n=1+frac1n$.
Thank you for the clear example!
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Sep 11 at 3:39
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Hint: If a sequence converges to $1$ from above, the distances between each of its terms and $0$ decrease.
Thank you. Now this question seems so simple.
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Your intuition appears to be leading you in a good direction. An increasing sequence is a good thing to try.
Note that an increasing sequence that converges to a number has a property you're looking for: it increases slower and slower.
Try to construct an actual increasing, converging sequence $a_n.$ Then consider some of the numbers that $a_n$ does not converge to. Could any of them be the number $a$ you need?
Thank you for the guidance. I appreciate answers that do not immediately reveal an answer!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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For example,
$$a_n=frac1nquadhboxandquad a=-2018 .$$
Thank you for the example!
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You can simply take $a=0$ and $a_n=1+frac1n$.
Thank you for the clear example!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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You can simply take $a=0$ and $a_n=1+frac1n$.
Thank you for the clear example!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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You can simply take $a=0$ and $a_n=1+frac1n$.
You can simply take $a=0$ and $a_n=1+frac1n$.
answered Sep 11 at 2:23
Eclipse Sun
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Thank you for the clear example!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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Thank you for the clear example!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
Thank you for the clear example!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
Thank you for the clear example!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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Hint: If a sequence converges to $1$ from above, the distances between each of its terms and $0$ decrease.
Thank you. Now this question seems so simple.
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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Hint: If a sequence converges to $1$ from above, the distances between each of its terms and $0$ decrease.
Thank you. Now this question seems so simple.
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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Hint: If a sequence converges to $1$ from above, the distances between each of its terms and $0$ decrease.
Hint: If a sequence converges to $1$ from above, the distances between each of its terms and $0$ decrease.
answered Sep 11 at 2:23
Carl Schildkraut
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Thank you. Now this question seems so simple.
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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Thank you. Now this question seems so simple.
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
Thank you. Now this question seems so simple.
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
Thank you. Now this question seems so simple.
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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Your intuition appears to be leading you in a good direction. An increasing sequence is a good thing to try.
Note that an increasing sequence that converges to a number has a property you're looking for: it increases slower and slower.
Try to construct an actual increasing, converging sequence $a_n.$ Then consider some of the numbers that $a_n$ does not converge to. Could any of them be the number $a$ you need?
Thank you for the guidance. I appreciate answers that do not immediately reveal an answer!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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up vote
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Your intuition appears to be leading you in a good direction. An increasing sequence is a good thing to try.
Note that an increasing sequence that converges to a number has a property you're looking for: it increases slower and slower.
Try to construct an actual increasing, converging sequence $a_n.$ Then consider some of the numbers that $a_n$ does not converge to. Could any of them be the number $a$ you need?
Thank you for the guidance. I appreciate answers that do not immediately reveal an answer!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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up vote
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up vote
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Your intuition appears to be leading you in a good direction. An increasing sequence is a good thing to try.
Note that an increasing sequence that converges to a number has a property you're looking for: it increases slower and slower.
Try to construct an actual increasing, converging sequence $a_n.$ Then consider some of the numbers that $a_n$ does not converge to. Could any of them be the number $a$ you need?
Your intuition appears to be leading you in a good direction. An increasing sequence is a good thing to try.
Note that an increasing sequence that converges to a number has a property you're looking for: it increases slower and slower.
Try to construct an actual increasing, converging sequence $a_n.$ Then consider some of the numbers that $a_n$ does not converge to. Could any of them be the number $a$ you need?
answered Sep 11 at 2:37
David K
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Thank you for the guidance. I appreciate answers that do not immediately reveal an answer!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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Thank you for the guidance. I appreciate answers that do not immediately reveal an answer!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
Thank you for the guidance. I appreciate answers that do not immediately reveal an answer!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
Thank you for the guidance. I appreciate answers that do not immediately reveal an answer!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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For example,
$$a_n=frac1nquadhboxandquad a=-2018 .$$
Thank you for the example!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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For example,
$$a_n=frac1nquadhboxandquad a=-2018 .$$
Thank you for the example!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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For example,
$$a_n=frac1nquadhboxandquad a=-2018 .$$
For example,
$$a_n=frac1nquadhboxandquad a=-2018 .$$
answered Sep 11 at 2:23
David
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Thank you for the example!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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Thank you for the example!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
Thank you for the example!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
Thank you for the example!
– Michael
Sep 11 at 3:39
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Hint: it can converge to something other than a. Say it converges to 1. Then a sequence that gets closer and closer but always more than 1 gets closer and closer to any number less than 1. Btw, I've never seen a question of a sequence that converges but doesn't get close.
– fleablood
Sep 11 at 2:44