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Below is my restatement of the theorem 2.15 given in the book by K.D.Joshi, titled 'Foundations of Discrete Math.', on page#80; followed by issues in it.
Let $X$ be a finite set, & $P(X)$ is power set. Then $|P(X)| = 2^X$.
Let $mathbbZ_2$ be the set $0,1$.
Let $mathbbF$ be the set of all functions from $mathbbX$ to $mathbbZ_2$, so $|mathbbF| = 2^X$.
The co-domain of function $mathbbtheta$ is $mathbbF$, which itself consists of $2^X$ functions from $mathbbX$ to $mathbbZ_2$; while the domain of $mathbbtheta$ is $P(X)$.
The proof would be completed if could establish a bijection betn. $P(X)$ & $mathbbF$.
For this, define $mathbbtheta: P(X) rightarrow mathbbF$ as below.
If $A$ is a subset of $X$, we let $f_A: Xrightarrow mathbbZ_2$ be the characteristic function of $A$, defined by $f_A=1$ if $x in A$ & $f_A=0$ if $x notin A$.
We define $mathbbtheta(A)=f_A$.
Below would take an example to elaborate the above:
Let, $X=0,1,2,3$, with $P(X) = emptyset, 0, 1, 2, 3, 0,1, 0,2,0,3, 1,2, 1,3, 2,3, 0,1,2, 0,1,3, 0,2,3,
1,2,3, 0,1,2,3 .$
So, $, |P(X)| = 2^4=16.$
The set $mathbbZ_2$ is fixed, & the set $F$ is the set of all functions from $X to mathbbZ_2$ given by $16$ combinations listed below, as ordered pairs:
$1. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 0), (3, 0) $,
$2. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 0), (3, 1) $,
$3. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 1), (3, 0) $,
$4. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 1), (3, 1) $,
$,,,,vdots$
$15. (0, 1), (1, 1), (2, 1), (3, 0) $,
$16. (0, 1), (1, 1), (2, 1), (3, 1) $,
Each of the $16$ subsets, has $4$ ordered pairs, that forms the set $F$.
The characteristic function $f_A: Xrightarrow mathbbZ_2$ is used to identify if a subset $x$ of the domain is further a subset of $A$.
Explaining the above equivalence between $mathbbtheta(A)=f_A$:
Taking a typical element of the domain of $theta$, let the subset $A$, of the domain, then $theta(A): X to mathbbZ_2$. Let it be defined as the char. fn. of $A$. Thus $[theta(A)](x) = 1$ or $0$, according as $x in A$, or $x notin A$.
To show that $theta$ is a bijection, need show two parts :-
(i) $theta$ is a one-to-one function,
(ii) $theta$ is an onto function,
(i) Need show that if $theta(A) = theta(B)$, then $A =B$.
Let $x in A$, then $theta(A)(x)=1$. This implies $theta(B)(x)=1$, which further implies that $x in B$. So, $Asubset B$. Similarly, $Bsubset A$, & so $A=B$.
(ii) Let $f$ be a function from $Xto mathbbZ_2$, i.e. $f in mathbbZ_2^X$. So, need find some point in domain (let, $A in P(X))$ that maps to $f$ in co-domain, i.e. $theta(A)(x)=f$; i.e. $f$ equals the char. fn. of $A$. So, the only choice is $A = f^-1(1)$, with $Ain P(X)$ & so $f(x) = 1$
Q.1. How can the co-domain be a set of functions, rather than a set of values?
My understanding is that co-domain is a set of values mapped from domain.
Q.2. It is known to me that for a function, multiple values cannot be mapped from domain to co-domain; but it is unclear if same element of co-domain is only mappable by a single element in a function.
So, am not clear why such combinations as $0, 0, 1, 0 $ are not allowed in the above specification of members of $F$?
Q.3. What is the logic for (the proof being based on) finding equivalence(bijection) between the domain($P(X)$) & the co-domain ($F$)?
I mean that can I be given any simpler example to understand the equivalence(bijection) between domain & co-domain, in any other proof.
Q.4. In (i) above how it is concluded by : $(x in A)implies (x in B)$, that $Asubset B$?
Q.5. In (ii) above, how is it made sure that there would a point with value $1$ available after mapping from domain to co-domain . Is it made possible by numbering the set of all functions in the co-domain (i.e., $F$)?
*Update : - * On page #89 there is given exercise #2.14, that states an alternate way to prove theorem. It states :
Let the $n$ distinct elements of finite set $X$ be $x_1, x_2,cdots, x_n$. For each subset $A$ of $X$, we define a binary sequence $a_1, a_2,cdots, a_n$ in which $a_i =1$ or $0$ according as $x_iin A$ or $x_inotin A$. This gives a bijection between $P(X)$ & the set of all binary sequences of length $n$. Since there are $2^n$ such sequences, $|P(X)| =2^n$.
Is this proof significantly different from the proof given the text?
For each element $x_i$ of finite set $X$, there is assigned a value $a_i$ & for each subset $A$ of $X$, define a binary sequence that lists which element is present in the given subset.
So, now there are $2^n$ subsets of $X$ listed as before. That makes the proof same as before.
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Below is my restatement of the theorem 2.15 given in the book by K.D.Joshi, titled 'Foundations of Discrete Math.', on page#80; followed by issues in it.
Let $X$ be a finite set, & $P(X)$ is power set. Then $|P(X)| = 2^X$.
Let $mathbbZ_2$ be the set $0,1$.
Let $mathbbF$ be the set of all functions from $mathbbX$ to $mathbbZ_2$, so $|mathbbF| = 2^X$.
The co-domain of function $mathbbtheta$ is $mathbbF$, which itself consists of $2^X$ functions from $mathbbX$ to $mathbbZ_2$; while the domain of $mathbbtheta$ is $P(X)$.
The proof would be completed if could establish a bijection betn. $P(X)$ & $mathbbF$.
For this, define $mathbbtheta: P(X) rightarrow mathbbF$ as below.
If $A$ is a subset of $X$, we let $f_A: Xrightarrow mathbbZ_2$ be the characteristic function of $A$, defined by $f_A=1$ if $x in A$ & $f_A=0$ if $x notin A$.
We define $mathbbtheta(A)=f_A$.
Below would take an example to elaborate the above:
Let, $X=0,1,2,3$, with $P(X) = emptyset, 0, 1, 2, 3, 0,1, 0,2,0,3, 1,2, 1,3, 2,3, 0,1,2, 0,1,3, 0,2,3,
1,2,3, 0,1,2,3 .$
So, $, |P(X)| = 2^4=16.$
The set $mathbbZ_2$ is fixed, & the set $F$ is the set of all functions from $X to mathbbZ_2$ given by $16$ combinations listed below, as ordered pairs:
$1. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 0), (3, 0) $,
$2. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 0), (3, 1) $,
$3. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 1), (3, 0) $,
$4. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 1), (3, 1) $,
$,,,,vdots$
$15. (0, 1), (1, 1), (2, 1), (3, 0) $,
$16. (0, 1), (1, 1), (2, 1), (3, 1) $,
Each of the $16$ subsets, has $4$ ordered pairs, that forms the set $F$.
The characteristic function $f_A: Xrightarrow mathbbZ_2$ is used to identify if a subset $x$ of the domain is further a subset of $A$.
Explaining the above equivalence between $mathbbtheta(A)=f_A$:
Taking a typical element of the domain of $theta$, let the subset $A$, of the domain, then $theta(A): X to mathbbZ_2$. Let it be defined as the char. fn. of $A$. Thus $[theta(A)](x) = 1$ or $0$, according as $x in A$, or $x notin A$.
To show that $theta$ is a bijection, need show two parts :-
(i) $theta$ is a one-to-one function,
(ii) $theta$ is an onto function,
(i) Need show that if $theta(A) = theta(B)$, then $A =B$.
Let $x in A$, then $theta(A)(x)=1$. This implies $theta(B)(x)=1$, which further implies that $x in B$. So, $Asubset B$. Similarly, $Bsubset A$, & so $A=B$.
(ii) Let $f$ be a function from $Xto mathbbZ_2$, i.e. $f in mathbbZ_2^X$. So, need find some point in domain (let, $A in P(X))$ that maps to $f$ in co-domain, i.e. $theta(A)(x)=f$; i.e. $f$ equals the char. fn. of $A$. So, the only choice is $A = f^-1(1)$, with $Ain P(X)$ & so $f(x) = 1$
Q.1. How can the co-domain be a set of functions, rather than a set of values?
My understanding is that co-domain is a set of values mapped from domain.
Q.2. It is known to me that for a function, multiple values cannot be mapped from domain to co-domain; but it is unclear if same element of co-domain is only mappable by a single element in a function.
So, am not clear why such combinations as $0, 0, 1, 0 $ are not allowed in the above specification of members of $F$?
Q.3. What is the logic for (the proof being based on) finding equivalence(bijection) between the domain($P(X)$) & the co-domain ($F$)?
I mean that can I be given any simpler example to understand the equivalence(bijection) between domain & co-domain, in any other proof.
Q.4. In (i) above how it is concluded by : $(x in A)implies (x in B)$, that $Asubset B$?
Q.5. In (ii) above, how is it made sure that there would a point with value $1$ available after mapping from domain to co-domain . Is it made possible by numbering the set of all functions in the co-domain (i.e., $F$)?
*Update : - * On page #89 there is given exercise #2.14, that states an alternate way to prove theorem. It states :
Let the $n$ distinct elements of finite set $X$ be $x_1, x_2,cdots, x_n$. For each subset $A$ of $X$, we define a binary sequence $a_1, a_2,cdots, a_n$ in which $a_i =1$ or $0$ according as $x_iin A$ or $x_inotin A$. This gives a bijection between $P(X)$ & the set of all binary sequences of length $n$. Since there are $2^n$ such sequences, $|P(X)| =2^n$.
Is this proof significantly different from the proof given the text?
For each element $x_i$ of finite set $X$, there is assigned a value $a_i$ & for each subset $A$ of $X$, define a binary sequence that lists which element is present in the given subset.
So, now there are $2^n$ subsets of $X$ listed as before. That makes the proof same as before.
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Below is my restatement of the theorem 2.15 given in the book by K.D.Joshi, titled 'Foundations of Discrete Math.', on page#80; followed by issues in it.
Let $X$ be a finite set, & $P(X)$ is power set. Then $|P(X)| = 2^X$.
Let $mathbbZ_2$ be the set $0,1$.
Let $mathbbF$ be the set of all functions from $mathbbX$ to $mathbbZ_2$, so $|mathbbF| = 2^X$.
The co-domain of function $mathbbtheta$ is $mathbbF$, which itself consists of $2^X$ functions from $mathbbX$ to $mathbbZ_2$; while the domain of $mathbbtheta$ is $P(X)$.
The proof would be completed if could establish a bijection betn. $P(X)$ & $mathbbF$.
For this, define $mathbbtheta: P(X) rightarrow mathbbF$ as below.
If $A$ is a subset of $X$, we let $f_A: Xrightarrow mathbbZ_2$ be the characteristic function of $A$, defined by $f_A=1$ if $x in A$ & $f_A=0$ if $x notin A$.
We define $mathbbtheta(A)=f_A$.
Below would take an example to elaborate the above:
Let, $X=0,1,2,3$, with $P(X) = emptyset, 0, 1, 2, 3, 0,1, 0,2,0,3, 1,2, 1,3, 2,3, 0,1,2, 0,1,3, 0,2,3,
1,2,3, 0,1,2,3 .$
So, $, |P(X)| = 2^4=16.$
The set $mathbbZ_2$ is fixed, & the set $F$ is the set of all functions from $X to mathbbZ_2$ given by $16$ combinations listed below, as ordered pairs:
$1. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 0), (3, 0) $,
$2. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 0), (3, 1) $,
$3. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 1), (3, 0) $,
$4. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 1), (3, 1) $,
$,,,,vdots$
$15. (0, 1), (1, 1), (2, 1), (3, 0) $,
$16. (0, 1), (1, 1), (2, 1), (3, 1) $,
Each of the $16$ subsets, has $4$ ordered pairs, that forms the set $F$.
The characteristic function $f_A: Xrightarrow mathbbZ_2$ is used to identify if a subset $x$ of the domain is further a subset of $A$.
Explaining the above equivalence between $mathbbtheta(A)=f_A$:
Taking a typical element of the domain of $theta$, let the subset $A$, of the domain, then $theta(A): X to mathbbZ_2$. Let it be defined as the char. fn. of $A$. Thus $[theta(A)](x) = 1$ or $0$, according as $x in A$, or $x notin A$.
To show that $theta$ is a bijection, need show two parts :-
(i) $theta$ is a one-to-one function,
(ii) $theta$ is an onto function,
(i) Need show that if $theta(A) = theta(B)$, then $A =B$.
Let $x in A$, then $theta(A)(x)=1$. This implies $theta(B)(x)=1$, which further implies that $x in B$. So, $Asubset B$. Similarly, $Bsubset A$, & so $A=B$.
(ii) Let $f$ be a function from $Xto mathbbZ_2$, i.e. $f in mathbbZ_2^X$. So, need find some point in domain (let, $A in P(X))$ that maps to $f$ in co-domain, i.e. $theta(A)(x)=f$; i.e. $f$ equals the char. fn. of $A$. So, the only choice is $A = f^-1(1)$, with $Ain P(X)$ & so $f(x) = 1$
Q.1. How can the co-domain be a set of functions, rather than a set of values?
My understanding is that co-domain is a set of values mapped from domain.
Q.2. It is known to me that for a function, multiple values cannot be mapped from domain to co-domain; but it is unclear if same element of co-domain is only mappable by a single element in a function.
So, am not clear why such combinations as $0, 0, 1, 0 $ are not allowed in the above specification of members of $F$?
Q.3. What is the logic for (the proof being based on) finding equivalence(bijection) between the domain($P(X)$) & the co-domain ($F$)?
I mean that can I be given any simpler example to understand the equivalence(bijection) between domain & co-domain, in any other proof.
Q.4. In (i) above how it is concluded by : $(x in A)implies (x in B)$, that $Asubset B$?
Q.5. In (ii) above, how is it made sure that there would a point with value $1$ available after mapping from domain to co-domain . Is it made possible by numbering the set of all functions in the co-domain (i.e., $F$)?
*Update : - * On page #89 there is given exercise #2.14, that states an alternate way to prove theorem. It states :
Let the $n$ distinct elements of finite set $X$ be $x_1, x_2,cdots, x_n$. For each subset $A$ of $X$, we define a binary sequence $a_1, a_2,cdots, a_n$ in which $a_i =1$ or $0$ according as $x_iin A$ or $x_inotin A$. This gives a bijection between $P(X)$ & the set of all binary sequences of length $n$. Since there are $2^n$ such sequences, $|P(X)| =2^n$.
Is this proof significantly different from the proof given the text?
For each element $x_i$ of finite set $X$, there is assigned a value $a_i$ & for each subset $A$ of $X$, define a binary sequence that lists which element is present in the given subset.
So, now there are $2^n$ subsets of $X$ listed as before. That makes the proof same as before.
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Below is my restatement of the theorem 2.15 given in the book by K.D.Joshi, titled 'Foundations of Discrete Math.', on page#80; followed by issues in it.
Let $X$ be a finite set, & $P(X)$ is power set. Then $|P(X)| = 2^X$.
Let $mathbbZ_2$ be the set $0,1$.
Let $mathbbF$ be the set of all functions from $mathbbX$ to $mathbbZ_2$, so $|mathbbF| = 2^X$.
The co-domain of function $mathbbtheta$ is $mathbbF$, which itself consists of $2^X$ functions from $mathbbX$ to $mathbbZ_2$; while the domain of $mathbbtheta$ is $P(X)$.
The proof would be completed if could establish a bijection betn. $P(X)$ & $mathbbF$.
For this, define $mathbbtheta: P(X) rightarrow mathbbF$ as below.
If $A$ is a subset of $X$, we let $f_A: Xrightarrow mathbbZ_2$ be the characteristic function of $A$, defined by $f_A=1$ if $x in A$ & $f_A=0$ if $x notin A$.
We define $mathbbtheta(A)=f_A$.
Below would take an example to elaborate the above:
Let, $X=0,1,2,3$, with $P(X) = emptyset, 0, 1, 2, 3, 0,1, 0,2,0,3, 1,2, 1,3, 2,3, 0,1,2, 0,1,3, 0,2,3,
1,2,3, 0,1,2,3 .$
So, $, |P(X)| = 2^4=16.$
The set $mathbbZ_2$ is fixed, & the set $F$ is the set of all functions from $X to mathbbZ_2$ given by $16$ combinations listed below, as ordered pairs:
$1. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 0), (3, 0) $,
$2. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 0), (3, 1) $,
$3. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 1), (3, 0) $,
$4. (0, 0), (1, 0), (2, 1), (3, 1) $,
$,,,,vdots$
$15. (0, 1), (1, 1), (2, 1), (3, 0) $,
$16. (0, 1), (1, 1), (2, 1), (3, 1) $,
Each of the $16$ subsets, has $4$ ordered pairs, that forms the set $F$.
The characteristic function $f_A: Xrightarrow mathbbZ_2$ is used to identify if a subset $x$ of the domain is further a subset of $A$.
Explaining the above equivalence between $mathbbtheta(A)=f_A$:
Taking a typical element of the domain of $theta$, let the subset $A$, of the domain, then $theta(A): X to mathbbZ_2$. Let it be defined as the char. fn. of $A$. Thus $[theta(A)](x) = 1$ or $0$, according as $x in A$, or $x notin A$.
To show that $theta$ is a bijection, need show two parts :-
(i) $theta$ is a one-to-one function,
(ii) $theta$ is an onto function,
(i) Need show that if $theta(A) = theta(B)$, then $A =B$.
Let $x in A$, then $theta(A)(x)=1$. This implies $theta(B)(x)=1$, which further implies that $x in B$. So, $Asubset B$. Similarly, $Bsubset A$, & so $A=B$.
(ii) Let $f$ be a function from $Xto mathbbZ_2$, i.e. $f in mathbbZ_2^X$. So, need find some point in domain (let, $A in P(X))$ that maps to $f$ in co-domain, i.e. $theta(A)(x)=f$; i.e. $f$ equals the char. fn. of $A$. So, the only choice is $A = f^-1(1)$, with $Ain P(X)$ & so $f(x) = 1$
Q.1. How can the co-domain be a set of functions, rather than a set of values?
My understanding is that co-domain is a set of values mapped from domain.
Q.2. It is known to me that for a function, multiple values cannot be mapped from domain to co-domain; but it is unclear if same element of co-domain is only mappable by a single element in a function.
So, am not clear why such combinations as $0, 0, 1, 0 $ are not allowed in the above specification of members of $F$?
Q.3. What is the logic for (the proof being based on) finding equivalence(bijection) between the domain($P(X)$) & the co-domain ($F$)?
I mean that can I be given any simpler example to understand the equivalence(bijection) between domain & co-domain, in any other proof.
Q.4. In (i) above how it is concluded by : $(x in A)implies (x in B)$, that $Asubset B$?
Q.5. In (ii) above, how is it made sure that there would a point with value $1$ available after mapping from domain to co-domain . Is it made possible by numbering the set of all functions in the co-domain (i.e., $F$)?
*Update : - * On page #89 there is given exercise #2.14, that states an alternate way to prove theorem. It states :
Let the $n$ distinct elements of finite set $X$ be $x_1, x_2,cdots, x_n$. For each subset $A$ of $X$, we define a binary sequence $a_1, a_2,cdots, a_n$ in which $a_i =1$ or $0$ according as $x_iin A$ or $x_inotin A$. This gives a bijection between $P(X)$ & the set of all binary sequences of length $n$. Since there are $2^n$ such sequences, $|P(X)| =2^n$.
Is this proof significantly different from the proof given the text?
For each element $x_i$ of finite set $X$, there is assigned a value $a_i$ & for each subset $A$ of $X$, define a binary sequence that lists which element is present in the given subset.
So, now there are $2^n$ subsets of $X$ listed as before. That makes the proof same as before.
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- No. See the "definition" part of this. $f colon X to Y$ only requires $X,Y$ to be sets, regardless the kind of sets [number sets, function sets, etc.].
- $f colon Bbb R to 0 $ maps all real numbers to $0$. This is a function of course. I do not see the meaning of groups $alpha, beta$, so maybe I need more information to explain.
- If you are asking about constructing bijections, then no general rules for this. If you are asking why (i)(ii) gives the verification of bijective, then I could say that this is the definition of bijections. See the 1st paragraph of bijection.
- One thing is that $A subset B$ is defined as "for all $x in A, x in B$".
- The $f^-1$ in $f^-1(1)$ does not mean the inverse function of $f$. This is called the "pre-image" or "inverse image" [see the inverse image part]. We do not need to require there is a $x in A$ such that $f(x)=1$, if does not exist, then $f^-1(1) = varnothing in mathcal P(X)$. After the construction of this bijection, $F$ could be numbered.
UPDATE FOR Q2.
If those are the meanings of $alpha, beta$, then $F$ is not the list. Try do the same thing for $X = 0,1,2$ or $X= 0,1,2,3,4$, and I do not think you would get the right result.
In my opinion, the element of $F$ should look like
$$
(0,1), (1,1), (2,0), (3,0).
$$
I am using parentheses to indicate these are ordered pairs.
Thanks for your kind response. Please see the updated OP for the details needed for Q.2.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:16
Sorry, for taking the members of sets $alpha, beta, F$ as sets rather than ordered pairs. Have corrected it in the OP. Definitely, order matters & ordered pairs can be elements of a set too. I do not know why would not get right result ( that I hope is of getting $|mathbbF| = 2^X$), if $X=0,1,2$, or $X=0,1,2,3, 4$.
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Sep 11 at 4:36
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@jiten If you make a similar list for $0,1,2$ or $0,1,2,3,4$, then you would get $|F|=9 neq 2^3 =8$ or $25neq 32 = 2^5$.P.S. those are backslashes, not the regular one.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:38
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@jiten Take $X = 0,1,2$ as an example, then $F = (0,j_0), (1,j_1), (2,j_2)colon j_1,j_2,j_0 in 0,1$. Then each $j_k$ has 2 choices, and all possible functions are $2^3=8$ in total. And yes, the function is boolean as you understood.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:51
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Now you are right. Actually this could simply given by 4-digits binary integers. And you are welcome.
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Sep 11 at 5:00
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- The domain and codomain has to be set but they are not restricted to set of integer. real/ complex values. For example $$f: textsun, moon, earth to textluffy, sanji$$
$$f(textearth) = textluffy ,f(textmoon) = textsanji, f(textearth)=textsanji$$
is a function.
Be careful when you use set notation, $0,0= 0$. I believe from your updates, this is resolved.
This is how typically cardinality is defined. We say two sets, $A$ and $B$ share the same cardinality if we can find a bijection from $A$ to $B$. Hence, if you have proven that $|B|$ is equal to a quantity and you want to show that $|A|$ share the same cardinality, we construct a bijection from $A$ to $B$ and we write that $|A|=|B|$. We use Theorem $2.14$ to conclude that $|F|=2^X$. Hence, we just need to construct a bijection from $P(X)$ to $F$.
Q $4$ and Q $5$, refer to the other solution.
Now that rather than a set of function, we have a set of finite binary sequence of length $n$. We denote the set of binary sequence as $G$. Let the way the mapping from a subset of $X$ to $G$ be $phi$.
(i) Need show that if $phi(A) = phi(B)$, then $A =B$.
Let $phi(A)= a_1, ldots, a_n$ and $phi(B)= b_1, ldots, b_n$.
Let $x_i in A$, then $a_i=1$. This implies $b_i=1$, which further implies that $x_i in B$. So, $Asubset B$. Similarly, $Bsubset A$, & so $A=B$
(ii) Let $a_1, ldots, a_n in G$. So, need find some point in domain (let, $A in P(X))$ that maps to $a_1, ldots, a_n$ in co-domain, i.e. $phi(A)=a_1, ldots, a_n$; So, the only choice is $A = bigcup_i=1, ldots n, a_i = 1 x_i $
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2913279/424260. It is concerned with set based soln. to the $5$ persons & locks problem.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 15:19
Please look at the post stated in my earlier comment, as have recd. no reply so far.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 16:01
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reading question takes time.
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Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2928580/424260.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 5:46
In my earlier comment, the core issue is to 'see-through' the calculus based approach. I have one more answer by you for similar question at : math.stackexchange.com/a/2892706/424260; but could not 'see-through' it.
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Sep 24 at 8:28
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- No. See the "definition" part of this. $f colon X to Y$ only requires $X,Y$ to be sets, regardless the kind of sets [number sets, function sets, etc.].
- $f colon Bbb R to 0 $ maps all real numbers to $0$. This is a function of course. I do not see the meaning of groups $alpha, beta$, so maybe I need more information to explain.
- If you are asking about constructing bijections, then no general rules for this. If you are asking why (i)(ii) gives the verification of bijective, then I could say that this is the definition of bijections. See the 1st paragraph of bijection.
- One thing is that $A subset B$ is defined as "for all $x in A, x in B$".
- The $f^-1$ in $f^-1(1)$ does not mean the inverse function of $f$. This is called the "pre-image" or "inverse image" [see the inverse image part]. We do not need to require there is a $x in A$ such that $f(x)=1$, if does not exist, then $f^-1(1) = varnothing in mathcal P(X)$. After the construction of this bijection, $F$ could be numbered.
UPDATE FOR Q2.
If those are the meanings of $alpha, beta$, then $F$ is not the list. Try do the same thing for $X = 0,1,2$ or $X= 0,1,2,3,4$, and I do not think you would get the right result.
In my opinion, the element of $F$ should look like
$$
(0,1), (1,1), (2,0), (3,0).
$$
I am using parentheses to indicate these are ordered pairs.
Thanks for your kind response. Please see the updated OP for the details needed for Q.2.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:16
Sorry, for taking the members of sets $alpha, beta, F$ as sets rather than ordered pairs. Have corrected it in the OP. Definitely, order matters & ordered pairs can be elements of a set too. I do not know why would not get right result ( that I hope is of getting $|mathbbF| = 2^X$), if $X=0,1,2$, or $X=0,1,2,3, 4$.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:36
1
@jiten If you make a similar list for $0,1,2$ or $0,1,2,3,4$, then you would get $|F|=9 neq 2^3 =8$ or $25neq 32 = 2^5$.P.S. those are backslashes, not the regular one.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:38
1
@jiten Take $X = 0,1,2$ as an example, then $F = (0,j_0), (1,j_1), (2,j_2)colon j_1,j_2,j_0 in 0,1$. Then each $j_k$ has 2 choices, and all possible functions are $2^3=8$ in total. And yes, the function is boolean as you understood.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:51
1
Now you are right. Actually this could simply given by 4-digits binary integers. And you are welcome.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 5:00
|
show 3 more comments
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
- No. See the "definition" part of this. $f colon X to Y$ only requires $X,Y$ to be sets, regardless the kind of sets [number sets, function sets, etc.].
- $f colon Bbb R to 0 $ maps all real numbers to $0$. This is a function of course. I do not see the meaning of groups $alpha, beta$, so maybe I need more information to explain.
- If you are asking about constructing bijections, then no general rules for this. If you are asking why (i)(ii) gives the verification of bijective, then I could say that this is the definition of bijections. See the 1st paragraph of bijection.
- One thing is that $A subset B$ is defined as "for all $x in A, x in B$".
- The $f^-1$ in $f^-1(1)$ does not mean the inverse function of $f$. This is called the "pre-image" or "inverse image" [see the inverse image part]. We do not need to require there is a $x in A$ such that $f(x)=1$, if does not exist, then $f^-1(1) = varnothing in mathcal P(X)$. After the construction of this bijection, $F$ could be numbered.
UPDATE FOR Q2.
If those are the meanings of $alpha, beta$, then $F$ is not the list. Try do the same thing for $X = 0,1,2$ or $X= 0,1,2,3,4$, and I do not think you would get the right result.
In my opinion, the element of $F$ should look like
$$
(0,1), (1,1), (2,0), (3,0).
$$
I am using parentheses to indicate these are ordered pairs.
Thanks for your kind response. Please see the updated OP for the details needed for Q.2.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:16
Sorry, for taking the members of sets $alpha, beta, F$ as sets rather than ordered pairs. Have corrected it in the OP. Definitely, order matters & ordered pairs can be elements of a set too. I do not know why would not get right result ( that I hope is of getting $|mathbbF| = 2^X$), if $X=0,1,2$, or $X=0,1,2,3, 4$.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:36
1
@jiten If you make a similar list for $0,1,2$ or $0,1,2,3,4$, then you would get $|F|=9 neq 2^3 =8$ or $25neq 32 = 2^5$.P.S. those are backslashes, not the regular one.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:38
1
@jiten Take $X = 0,1,2$ as an example, then $F = (0,j_0), (1,j_1), (2,j_2)colon j_1,j_2,j_0 in 0,1$. Then each $j_k$ has 2 choices, and all possible functions are $2^3=8$ in total. And yes, the function is boolean as you understood.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:51
1
Now you are right. Actually this could simply given by 4-digits binary integers. And you are welcome.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 5:00
|
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up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
- No. See the "definition" part of this. $f colon X to Y$ only requires $X,Y$ to be sets, regardless the kind of sets [number sets, function sets, etc.].
- $f colon Bbb R to 0 $ maps all real numbers to $0$. This is a function of course. I do not see the meaning of groups $alpha, beta$, so maybe I need more information to explain.
- If you are asking about constructing bijections, then no general rules for this. If you are asking why (i)(ii) gives the verification of bijective, then I could say that this is the definition of bijections. See the 1st paragraph of bijection.
- One thing is that $A subset B$ is defined as "for all $x in A, x in B$".
- The $f^-1$ in $f^-1(1)$ does not mean the inverse function of $f$. This is called the "pre-image" or "inverse image" [see the inverse image part]. We do not need to require there is a $x in A$ such that $f(x)=1$, if does not exist, then $f^-1(1) = varnothing in mathcal P(X)$. After the construction of this bijection, $F$ could be numbered.
UPDATE FOR Q2.
If those are the meanings of $alpha, beta$, then $F$ is not the list. Try do the same thing for $X = 0,1,2$ or $X= 0,1,2,3,4$, and I do not think you would get the right result.
In my opinion, the element of $F$ should look like
$$
(0,1), (1,1), (2,0), (3,0).
$$
I am using parentheses to indicate these are ordered pairs.
- No. See the "definition" part of this. $f colon X to Y$ only requires $X,Y$ to be sets, regardless the kind of sets [number sets, function sets, etc.].
- $f colon Bbb R to 0 $ maps all real numbers to $0$. This is a function of course. I do not see the meaning of groups $alpha, beta$, so maybe I need more information to explain.
- If you are asking about constructing bijections, then no general rules for this. If you are asking why (i)(ii) gives the verification of bijective, then I could say that this is the definition of bijections. See the 1st paragraph of bijection.
- One thing is that $A subset B$ is defined as "for all $x in A, x in B$".
- The $f^-1$ in $f^-1(1)$ does not mean the inverse function of $f$. This is called the "pre-image" or "inverse image" [see the inverse image part]. We do not need to require there is a $x in A$ such that $f(x)=1$, if does not exist, then $f^-1(1) = varnothing in mathcal P(X)$. After the construction of this bijection, $F$ could be numbered.
UPDATE FOR Q2.
If those are the meanings of $alpha, beta$, then $F$ is not the list. Try do the same thing for $X = 0,1,2$ or $X= 0,1,2,3,4$, and I do not think you would get the right result.
In my opinion, the element of $F$ should look like
$$
(0,1), (1,1), (2,0), (3,0).
$$
I am using parentheses to indicate these are ordered pairs.
edited Sep 11 at 4:23
answered Sep 11 at 4:08
xbh
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4,5061421
Thanks for your kind response. Please see the updated OP for the details needed for Q.2.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:16
Sorry, for taking the members of sets $alpha, beta, F$ as sets rather than ordered pairs. Have corrected it in the OP. Definitely, order matters & ordered pairs can be elements of a set too. I do not know why would not get right result ( that I hope is of getting $|mathbbF| = 2^X$), if $X=0,1,2$, or $X=0,1,2,3, 4$.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:36
1
@jiten If you make a similar list for $0,1,2$ or $0,1,2,3,4$, then you would get $|F|=9 neq 2^3 =8$ or $25neq 32 = 2^5$.P.S. those are backslashes, not the regular one.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:38
1
@jiten Take $X = 0,1,2$ as an example, then $F = (0,j_0), (1,j_1), (2,j_2)colon j_1,j_2,j_0 in 0,1$. Then each $j_k$ has 2 choices, and all possible functions are $2^3=8$ in total. And yes, the function is boolean as you understood.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:51
1
Now you are right. Actually this could simply given by 4-digits binary integers. And you are welcome.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 5:00
|
show 3 more comments
Thanks for your kind response. Please see the updated OP for the details needed for Q.2.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:16
Sorry, for taking the members of sets $alpha, beta, F$ as sets rather than ordered pairs. Have corrected it in the OP. Definitely, order matters & ordered pairs can be elements of a set too. I do not know why would not get right result ( that I hope is of getting $|mathbbF| = 2^X$), if $X=0,1,2$, or $X=0,1,2,3, 4$.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:36
1
@jiten If you make a similar list for $0,1,2$ or $0,1,2,3,4$, then you would get $|F|=9 neq 2^3 =8$ or $25neq 32 = 2^5$.P.S. those are backslashes, not the regular one.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:38
1
@jiten Take $X = 0,1,2$ as an example, then $F = (0,j_0), (1,j_1), (2,j_2)colon j_1,j_2,j_0 in 0,1$. Then each $j_k$ has 2 choices, and all possible functions are $2^3=8$ in total. And yes, the function is boolean as you understood.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:51
1
Now you are right. Actually this could simply given by 4-digits binary integers. And you are welcome.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 5:00
Thanks for your kind response. Please see the updated OP for the details needed for Q.2.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:16
Thanks for your kind response. Please see the updated OP for the details needed for Q.2.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:16
Sorry, for taking the members of sets $alpha, beta, F$ as sets rather than ordered pairs. Have corrected it in the OP. Definitely, order matters & ordered pairs can be elements of a set too. I do not know why would not get right result ( that I hope is of getting $|mathbbF| = 2^X$), if $X=0,1,2$, or $X=0,1,2,3, 4$.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:36
Sorry, for taking the members of sets $alpha, beta, F$ as sets rather than ordered pairs. Have corrected it in the OP. Definitely, order matters & ordered pairs can be elements of a set too. I do not know why would not get right result ( that I hope is of getting $|mathbbF| = 2^X$), if $X=0,1,2$, or $X=0,1,2,3, 4$.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 4:36
1
1
@jiten If you make a similar list for $0,1,2$ or $0,1,2,3,4$, then you would get $|F|=9 neq 2^3 =8$ or $25neq 32 = 2^5$.P.S. those are backslashes, not the regular one.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:38
@jiten If you make a similar list for $0,1,2$ or $0,1,2,3,4$, then you would get $|F|=9 neq 2^3 =8$ or $25neq 32 = 2^5$.P.S. those are backslashes, not the regular one.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:38
1
1
@jiten Take $X = 0,1,2$ as an example, then $F = (0,j_0), (1,j_1), (2,j_2)colon j_1,j_2,j_0 in 0,1$. Then each $j_k$ has 2 choices, and all possible functions are $2^3=8$ in total. And yes, the function is boolean as you understood.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:51
@jiten Take $X = 0,1,2$ as an example, then $F = (0,j_0), (1,j_1), (2,j_2)colon j_1,j_2,j_0 in 0,1$. Then each $j_k$ has 2 choices, and all possible functions are $2^3=8$ in total. And yes, the function is boolean as you understood.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 4:51
1
1
Now you are right. Actually this could simply given by 4-digits binary integers. And you are welcome.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 5:00
Now you are right. Actually this could simply given by 4-digits binary integers. And you are welcome.
– xbh
Sep 11 at 5:00
|
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- The domain and codomain has to be set but they are not restricted to set of integer. real/ complex values. For example $$f: textsun, moon, earth to textluffy, sanji$$
$$f(textearth) = textluffy ,f(textmoon) = textsanji, f(textearth)=textsanji$$
is a function.
Be careful when you use set notation, $0,0= 0$. I believe from your updates, this is resolved.
This is how typically cardinality is defined. We say two sets, $A$ and $B$ share the same cardinality if we can find a bijection from $A$ to $B$. Hence, if you have proven that $|B|$ is equal to a quantity and you want to show that $|A|$ share the same cardinality, we construct a bijection from $A$ to $B$ and we write that $|A|=|B|$. We use Theorem $2.14$ to conclude that $|F|=2^X$. Hence, we just need to construct a bijection from $P(X)$ to $F$.
Q $4$ and Q $5$, refer to the other solution.
Now that rather than a set of function, we have a set of finite binary sequence of length $n$. We denote the set of binary sequence as $G$. Let the way the mapping from a subset of $X$ to $G$ be $phi$.
(i) Need show that if $phi(A) = phi(B)$, then $A =B$.
Let $phi(A)= a_1, ldots, a_n$ and $phi(B)= b_1, ldots, b_n$.
Let $x_i in A$, then $a_i=1$. This implies $b_i=1$, which further implies that $x_i in B$. So, $Asubset B$. Similarly, $Bsubset A$, & so $A=B$
(ii) Let $a_1, ldots, a_n in G$. So, need find some point in domain (let, $A in P(X))$ that maps to $a_1, ldots, a_n$ in co-domain, i.e. $phi(A)=a_1, ldots, a_n$; So, the only choice is $A = bigcup_i=1, ldots n, a_i = 1 x_i $
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2913279/424260. It is concerned with set based soln. to the $5$ persons & locks problem.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 15:19
Please look at the post stated in my earlier comment, as have recd. no reply so far.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 16:01
1
reading question takes time.
– Siong Thye Goh
Sep 11 at 16:38
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2928580/424260.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 5:46
In my earlier comment, the core issue is to 'see-through' the calculus based approach. I have one more answer by you for similar question at : math.stackexchange.com/a/2892706/424260; but could not 'see-through' it.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 8:28
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
- The domain and codomain has to be set but they are not restricted to set of integer. real/ complex values. For example $$f: textsun, moon, earth to textluffy, sanji$$
$$f(textearth) = textluffy ,f(textmoon) = textsanji, f(textearth)=textsanji$$
is a function.
Be careful when you use set notation, $0,0= 0$. I believe from your updates, this is resolved.
This is how typically cardinality is defined. We say two sets, $A$ and $B$ share the same cardinality if we can find a bijection from $A$ to $B$. Hence, if you have proven that $|B|$ is equal to a quantity and you want to show that $|A|$ share the same cardinality, we construct a bijection from $A$ to $B$ and we write that $|A|=|B|$. We use Theorem $2.14$ to conclude that $|F|=2^X$. Hence, we just need to construct a bijection from $P(X)$ to $F$.
Q $4$ and Q $5$, refer to the other solution.
Now that rather than a set of function, we have a set of finite binary sequence of length $n$. We denote the set of binary sequence as $G$. Let the way the mapping from a subset of $X$ to $G$ be $phi$.
(i) Need show that if $phi(A) = phi(B)$, then $A =B$.
Let $phi(A)= a_1, ldots, a_n$ and $phi(B)= b_1, ldots, b_n$.
Let $x_i in A$, then $a_i=1$. This implies $b_i=1$, which further implies that $x_i in B$. So, $Asubset B$. Similarly, $Bsubset A$, & so $A=B$
(ii) Let $a_1, ldots, a_n in G$. So, need find some point in domain (let, $A in P(X))$ that maps to $a_1, ldots, a_n$ in co-domain, i.e. $phi(A)=a_1, ldots, a_n$; So, the only choice is $A = bigcup_i=1, ldots n, a_i = 1 x_i $
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2913279/424260. It is concerned with set based soln. to the $5$ persons & locks problem.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 15:19
Please look at the post stated in my earlier comment, as have recd. no reply so far.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 16:01
1
reading question takes time.
– Siong Thye Goh
Sep 11 at 16:38
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2928580/424260.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 5:46
In my earlier comment, the core issue is to 'see-through' the calculus based approach. I have one more answer by you for similar question at : math.stackexchange.com/a/2892706/424260; but could not 'see-through' it.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 8:28
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
- The domain and codomain has to be set but they are not restricted to set of integer. real/ complex values. For example $$f: textsun, moon, earth to textluffy, sanji$$
$$f(textearth) = textluffy ,f(textmoon) = textsanji, f(textearth)=textsanji$$
is a function.
Be careful when you use set notation, $0,0= 0$. I believe from your updates, this is resolved.
This is how typically cardinality is defined. We say two sets, $A$ and $B$ share the same cardinality if we can find a bijection from $A$ to $B$. Hence, if you have proven that $|B|$ is equal to a quantity and you want to show that $|A|$ share the same cardinality, we construct a bijection from $A$ to $B$ and we write that $|A|=|B|$. We use Theorem $2.14$ to conclude that $|F|=2^X$. Hence, we just need to construct a bijection from $P(X)$ to $F$.
Q $4$ and Q $5$, refer to the other solution.
Now that rather than a set of function, we have a set of finite binary sequence of length $n$. We denote the set of binary sequence as $G$. Let the way the mapping from a subset of $X$ to $G$ be $phi$.
(i) Need show that if $phi(A) = phi(B)$, then $A =B$.
Let $phi(A)= a_1, ldots, a_n$ and $phi(B)= b_1, ldots, b_n$.
Let $x_i in A$, then $a_i=1$. This implies $b_i=1$, which further implies that $x_i in B$. So, $Asubset B$. Similarly, $Bsubset A$, & so $A=B$
(ii) Let $a_1, ldots, a_n in G$. So, need find some point in domain (let, $A in P(X))$ that maps to $a_1, ldots, a_n$ in co-domain, i.e. $phi(A)=a_1, ldots, a_n$; So, the only choice is $A = bigcup_i=1, ldots n, a_i = 1 x_i $
- The domain and codomain has to be set but they are not restricted to set of integer. real/ complex values. For example $$f: textsun, moon, earth to textluffy, sanji$$
$$f(textearth) = textluffy ,f(textmoon) = textsanji, f(textearth)=textsanji$$
is a function.
Be careful when you use set notation, $0,0= 0$. I believe from your updates, this is resolved.
This is how typically cardinality is defined. We say two sets, $A$ and $B$ share the same cardinality if we can find a bijection from $A$ to $B$. Hence, if you have proven that $|B|$ is equal to a quantity and you want to show that $|A|$ share the same cardinality, we construct a bijection from $A$ to $B$ and we write that $|A|=|B|$. We use Theorem $2.14$ to conclude that $|F|=2^X$. Hence, we just need to construct a bijection from $P(X)$ to $F$.
Q $4$ and Q $5$, refer to the other solution.
Now that rather than a set of function, we have a set of finite binary sequence of length $n$. We denote the set of binary sequence as $G$. Let the way the mapping from a subset of $X$ to $G$ be $phi$.
(i) Need show that if $phi(A) = phi(B)$, then $A =B$.
Let $phi(A)= a_1, ldots, a_n$ and $phi(B)= b_1, ldots, b_n$.
Let $x_i in A$, then $a_i=1$. This implies $b_i=1$, which further implies that $x_i in B$. So, $Asubset B$. Similarly, $Bsubset A$, & so $A=B$
(ii) Let $a_1, ldots, a_n in G$. So, need find some point in domain (let, $A in P(X))$ that maps to $a_1, ldots, a_n$ in co-domain, i.e. $phi(A)=a_1, ldots, a_n$; So, the only choice is $A = bigcup_i=1, ldots n, a_i = 1 x_i $
answered Sep 11 at 13:33
Siong Thye Goh
91.9k1460113
91.9k1460113
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2913279/424260. It is concerned with set based soln. to the $5$ persons & locks problem.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 15:19
Please look at the post stated in my earlier comment, as have recd. no reply so far.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 16:01
1
reading question takes time.
– Siong Thye Goh
Sep 11 at 16:38
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2928580/424260.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 5:46
In my earlier comment, the core issue is to 'see-through' the calculus based approach. I have one more answer by you for similar question at : math.stackexchange.com/a/2892706/424260; but could not 'see-through' it.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 8:28
add a comment |
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2913279/424260. It is concerned with set based soln. to the $5$ persons & locks problem.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 15:19
Please look at the post stated in my earlier comment, as have recd. no reply so far.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 16:01
1
reading question takes time.
– Siong Thye Goh
Sep 11 at 16:38
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2928580/424260.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 5:46
In my earlier comment, the core issue is to 'see-through' the calculus based approach. I have one more answer by you for similar question at : math.stackexchange.com/a/2892706/424260; but could not 'see-through' it.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 8:28
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2913279/424260. It is concerned with set based soln. to the $5$ persons & locks problem.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 15:19
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2913279/424260. It is concerned with set based soln. to the $5$ persons & locks problem.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 15:19
Please look at the post stated in my earlier comment, as have recd. no reply so far.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 16:01
Please look at the post stated in my earlier comment, as have recd. no reply so far.
– jiten
Sep 11 at 16:01
1
1
reading question takes time.
– Siong Thye Goh
Sep 11 at 16:38
reading question takes time.
– Siong Thye Goh
Sep 11 at 16:38
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2928580/424260.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 5:46
Kindly help with my post at : math.stackexchange.com/q/2928580/424260.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 5:46
In my earlier comment, the core issue is to 'see-through' the calculus based approach. I have one more answer by you for similar question at : math.stackexchange.com/a/2892706/424260; but could not 'see-through' it.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 8:28
In my earlier comment, the core issue is to 'see-through' the calculus based approach. I have one more answer by you for similar question at : math.stackexchange.com/a/2892706/424260; but could not 'see-through' it.
– jiten
Sep 24 at 8:28
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