If $E e^theta ^2 X^2 leq e^ctheta^2$ for every $theta$, then $X$ is almost surely bounded
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The original problem states as below:
Suppose some random variable $X$ satisfies $DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE E e^theta ^2 X^2 leq e^ctheta^2$ for some constant $c$ and $forall theta in R$ show that $X$ is a bounded random variable ? i.e $|X|_infty <infty$
how to solve this one ?
Here is some of my attempt:
We want to bound $DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE (E|X|^p)^1/p$
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE E|X|^p &= int_0^infty P(|X|^p>t)mathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty P(|X|>t^1/p)mathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty P(e^X^2>e^t^2/p)mathrmdt\
&leq int_0^infty e^-t^2/p E e^X^2mathrmdt\
&leq e^cint_0^infty e^-t^2/p mathrmdt quad(E e^theta ^2 X^2 leq e^ctheta^2,take theta=1)\
&=e^cGamma(frac2/p+12/p)\
&leq e^c (frac2+p2)^frac2+p2
endalign*
$$
then we have:
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE
(E|X|^p)^1/p leq e^c/p(frac2+p2)^frac2+p2p
endalign* $$
which do not converges as $ p to infty $
,to here I think I fail to bound it
@Clement C. just check your hint , I think it is workable if I compute it right
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE
undersetthetainf frace^ctheta^2theta^pGamma(1+p/2)&= 2(ce)^p/2 fracGamma(1+fracp2)(p/2)^(p/2)
\ &= 2(ce)^p/2fracp2fracGamma(fracp2)(p/2)^(p/2)
\ &leq (ce)^p/2P
endalign* $$
and thus we have:
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE
(E|X|^p)^1/p leq (ce)^1/2 p^1/p leq (ce)^1/2 e^1/e
endalign* $$
which is bound by constant
probability measure-theory inequality random-variables concentration-of-measure
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The original problem states as below:
Suppose some random variable $X$ satisfies $DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE E e^theta ^2 X^2 leq e^ctheta^2$ for some constant $c$ and $forall theta in R$ show that $X$ is a bounded random variable ? i.e $|X|_infty <infty$
how to solve this one ?
Here is some of my attempt:
We want to bound $DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE (E|X|^p)^1/p$
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE E|X|^p &= int_0^infty P(|X|^p>t)mathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty P(|X|>t^1/p)mathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty P(e^X^2>e^t^2/p)mathrmdt\
&leq int_0^infty e^-t^2/p E e^X^2mathrmdt\
&leq e^cint_0^infty e^-t^2/p mathrmdt quad(E e^theta ^2 X^2 leq e^ctheta^2,take theta=1)\
&=e^cGamma(frac2/p+12/p)\
&leq e^c (frac2+p2)^frac2+p2
endalign*
$$
then we have:
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE
(E|X|^p)^1/p leq e^c/p(frac2+p2)^frac2+p2p
endalign* $$
which do not converges as $ p to infty $
,to here I think I fail to bound it
@Clement C. just check your hint , I think it is workable if I compute it right
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE
undersetthetainf frace^ctheta^2theta^pGamma(1+p/2)&= 2(ce)^p/2 fracGamma(1+fracp2)(p/2)^(p/2)
\ &= 2(ce)^p/2fracp2fracGamma(fracp2)(p/2)^(p/2)
\ &leq (ce)^p/2P
endalign* $$
and thus we have:
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE
(E|X|^p)^1/p leq (ce)^1/2 p^1/p leq (ce)^1/2 e^1/e
endalign* $$
which is bound by constant
probability measure-theory inequality random-variables concentration-of-measure
Please read my answer also. If I didn't make t a mistake this is really trivial.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:35
ShaoyuPei: And there is an even more trivial approach... Really, you accept answers much too quickly.
– Did
Sep 11 at 10:31
Additionnally, I would be curious to know if you actually managed to complete the proof @ClementC. suggested...
– Did
Sep 11 at 10:33
@Did Me too, to be honest. My solution (assuming is does go through without further assumptions on $c$) is not the most elegant nor shortest, merely one that mimicks the OP's attempt to fix it.
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:17
1
@ShaoyuPei Before accepting my answer, have you managed to make my suggestion go through?
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:25
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The original problem states as below:
Suppose some random variable $X$ satisfies $DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE E e^theta ^2 X^2 leq e^ctheta^2$ for some constant $c$ and $forall theta in R$ show that $X$ is a bounded random variable ? i.e $|X|_infty <infty$
how to solve this one ?
Here is some of my attempt:
We want to bound $DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE (E|X|^p)^1/p$
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE E|X|^p &= int_0^infty P(|X|^p>t)mathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty P(|X|>t^1/p)mathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty P(e^X^2>e^t^2/p)mathrmdt\
&leq int_0^infty e^-t^2/p E e^X^2mathrmdt\
&leq e^cint_0^infty e^-t^2/p mathrmdt quad(E e^theta ^2 X^2 leq e^ctheta^2,take theta=1)\
&=e^cGamma(frac2/p+12/p)\
&leq e^c (frac2+p2)^frac2+p2
endalign*
$$
then we have:
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE
(E|X|^p)^1/p leq e^c/p(frac2+p2)^frac2+p2p
endalign* $$
which do not converges as $ p to infty $
,to here I think I fail to bound it
@Clement C. just check your hint , I think it is workable if I compute it right
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE
undersetthetainf frace^ctheta^2theta^pGamma(1+p/2)&= 2(ce)^p/2 fracGamma(1+fracp2)(p/2)^(p/2)
\ &= 2(ce)^p/2fracp2fracGamma(fracp2)(p/2)^(p/2)
\ &leq (ce)^p/2P
endalign* $$
and thus we have:
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE
(E|X|^p)^1/p leq (ce)^1/2 p^1/p leq (ce)^1/2 e^1/e
endalign* $$
which is bound by constant
probability measure-theory inequality random-variables concentration-of-measure
The original problem states as below:
Suppose some random variable $X$ satisfies $DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE E e^theta ^2 X^2 leq e^ctheta^2$ for some constant $c$ and $forall theta in R$ show that $X$ is a bounded random variable ? i.e $|X|_infty <infty$
how to solve this one ?
Here is some of my attempt:
We want to bound $DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE (E|X|^p)^1/p$
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE E|X|^p &= int_0^infty P(|X|^p>t)mathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty P(|X|>t^1/p)mathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty P(e^X^2>e^t^2/p)mathrmdt\
&leq int_0^infty e^-t^2/p E e^X^2mathrmdt\
&leq e^cint_0^infty e^-t^2/p mathrmdt quad(E e^theta ^2 X^2 leq e^ctheta^2,take theta=1)\
&=e^cGamma(frac2/p+12/p)\
&leq e^c (frac2+p2)^frac2+p2
endalign*
$$
then we have:
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE
(E|X|^p)^1/p leq e^c/p(frac2+p2)^frac2+p2p
endalign* $$
which do not converges as $ p to infty $
,to here I think I fail to bound it
@Clement C. just check your hint , I think it is workable if I compute it right
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE
undersetthetainf frace^ctheta^2theta^pGamma(1+p/2)&= 2(ce)^p/2 fracGamma(1+fracp2)(p/2)^(p/2)
\ &= 2(ce)^p/2fracp2fracGamma(fracp2)(p/2)^(p/2)
\ &leq (ce)^p/2P
endalign* $$
and thus we have:
$$
beginalign*
DeclareMathOperator*EmathbbE
(E|X|^p)^1/p leq (ce)^1/2 p^1/p leq (ce)^1/2 e^1/e
endalign* $$
which is bound by constant
probability measure-theory inequality random-variables concentration-of-measure
probability measure-theory inequality random-variables concentration-of-measure
edited Sep 15 at 3:05
asked Sep 11 at 4:29
ShaoyuPei
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Please read my answer also. If I didn't make t a mistake this is really trivial.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:35
ShaoyuPei: And there is an even more trivial approach... Really, you accept answers much too quickly.
– Did
Sep 11 at 10:31
Additionnally, I would be curious to know if you actually managed to complete the proof @ClementC. suggested...
– Did
Sep 11 at 10:33
@Did Me too, to be honest. My solution (assuming is does go through without further assumptions on $c$) is not the most elegant nor shortest, merely one that mimicks the OP's attempt to fix it.
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:17
1
@ShaoyuPei Before accepting my answer, have you managed to make my suggestion go through?
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:25
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Please read my answer also. If I didn't make t a mistake this is really trivial.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:35
ShaoyuPei: And there is an even more trivial approach... Really, you accept answers much too quickly.
– Did
Sep 11 at 10:31
Additionnally, I would be curious to know if you actually managed to complete the proof @ClementC. suggested...
– Did
Sep 11 at 10:33
@Did Me too, to be honest. My solution (assuming is does go through without further assumptions on $c$) is not the most elegant nor shortest, merely one that mimicks the OP's attempt to fix it.
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:17
1
@ShaoyuPei Before accepting my answer, have you managed to make my suggestion go through?
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:25
Please read my answer also. If I didn't make t a mistake this is really trivial.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:35
Please read my answer also. If I didn't make t a mistake this is really trivial.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:35
ShaoyuPei: And there is an even more trivial approach... Really, you accept answers much too quickly.
– Did
Sep 11 at 10:31
ShaoyuPei: And there is an even more trivial approach... Really, you accept answers much too quickly.
– Did
Sep 11 at 10:31
Additionnally, I would be curious to know if you actually managed to complete the proof @ClementC. suggested...
– Did
Sep 11 at 10:33
Additionnally, I would be curious to know if you actually managed to complete the proof @ClementC. suggested...
– Did
Sep 11 at 10:33
@Did Me too, to be honest. My solution (assuming is does go through without further assumptions on $c$) is not the most elegant nor shortest, merely one that mimicks the OP's attempt to fix it.
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:17
@Did Me too, to be honest. My solution (assuming is does go through without further assumptions on $c$) is not the most elegant nor shortest, merely one that mimicks the OP's attempt to fix it.
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:17
1
1
@ShaoyuPei Before accepting my answer, have you managed to make my suggestion go through?
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:25
@ShaoyuPei Before accepting my answer, have you managed to make my suggestion go through?
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:25
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Hint: You are not using the fact that the bound holds for every $theta$. This is important.
To use it: Introduce "artificially" a $theta$: for every $theta>0$,
beginalign
mathbbE|X|^p &= int_0^infty mathbbPXmathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty mathbbPmathrmdt\
&=int_0^infty mathbbPe^theta^2 X^2 > e^theta^2t^2/p dt\
&leq int_0^infty e^-theta^2t^2/p mathbbE[e^theta^2 X^2] dt tagMarkov\
&leq e^ctheta^2int_0^infty e^-theta^2t^2/pdt tagassumption
endalign
Now compute the integral as you did to get a final bound
$$
frace^ctheta^2theta^pGamma(1+p/2) tag$dagger$
$$ which depends on $theta$; then try to choose the best $theta$ as a function of $p$ to optimize this bound.
Important: The above does not appear to go through. Namely, the minimum of $(dagger)$ is achieved for $theta^2 = p/(2c)$, and the final bound is asymptotically $sqrtppi c^p/2$. Thus $(mathbbE|X|^p)^1/p$ will only be bounded if $0leq c<1$ (in which case the limit as $ptoinfty$ is $0$).
Please see if my answer is correct.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:36
@KaviRamaMurthy Please see if mine is :)
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:28
@I think your solution is workable
– ShaoyuPei
Sep 15 at 2:12
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Low-tech approach: For every $theta$ and every $a>c$, $$E(e^theta^2X^2)geqslant E(e^theta^2X^2;X^2geqslant a)geqslant e^theta^2aP(X^2geqslant a)$$ hence $$P(X^2geqslant a)leqslant e^-theta^2ae^theta^2c$$ The RHS goes to $0$ when $theta^2toinfty$ hence $$P(X^2geqslant a)=0$$ This holds for every $a>c$ hence $X^2leqslant c$ almost surely, QED.
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We have $Ee^theta^2(X^2-c) leq 1$. By Fatou's Lemma $E lim inf_theta to infty e^theta^2(X^2-c) leq 1$. On the set $X^2 >c$ the $lim inf $ is $infty$. This implies that $X^2 leq c$ almost everywhere.
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Hint: You are not using the fact that the bound holds for every $theta$. This is important.
To use it: Introduce "artificially" a $theta$: for every $theta>0$,
beginalign
mathbbE|X|^p &= int_0^infty mathbbPXmathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty mathbbPmathrmdt\
&=int_0^infty mathbbPe^theta^2 X^2 > e^theta^2t^2/p dt\
&leq int_0^infty e^-theta^2t^2/p mathbbE[e^theta^2 X^2] dt tagMarkov\
&leq e^ctheta^2int_0^infty e^-theta^2t^2/pdt tagassumption
endalign
Now compute the integral as you did to get a final bound
$$
frace^ctheta^2theta^pGamma(1+p/2) tag$dagger$
$$ which depends on $theta$; then try to choose the best $theta$ as a function of $p$ to optimize this bound.
Important: The above does not appear to go through. Namely, the minimum of $(dagger)$ is achieved for $theta^2 = p/(2c)$, and the final bound is asymptotically $sqrtppi c^p/2$. Thus $(mathbbE|X|^p)^1/p$ will only be bounded if $0leq c<1$ (in which case the limit as $ptoinfty$ is $0$).
Please see if my answer is correct.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:36
@KaviRamaMurthy Please see if mine is :)
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:28
@I think your solution is workable
– ShaoyuPei
Sep 15 at 2:12
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Hint: You are not using the fact that the bound holds for every $theta$. This is important.
To use it: Introduce "artificially" a $theta$: for every $theta>0$,
beginalign
mathbbE|X|^p &= int_0^infty mathbbPXmathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty mathbbPmathrmdt\
&=int_0^infty mathbbPe^theta^2 X^2 > e^theta^2t^2/p dt\
&leq int_0^infty e^-theta^2t^2/p mathbbE[e^theta^2 X^2] dt tagMarkov\
&leq e^ctheta^2int_0^infty e^-theta^2t^2/pdt tagassumption
endalign
Now compute the integral as you did to get a final bound
$$
frace^ctheta^2theta^pGamma(1+p/2) tag$dagger$
$$ which depends on $theta$; then try to choose the best $theta$ as a function of $p$ to optimize this bound.
Important: The above does not appear to go through. Namely, the minimum of $(dagger)$ is achieved for $theta^2 = p/(2c)$, and the final bound is asymptotically $sqrtppi c^p/2$. Thus $(mathbbE|X|^p)^1/p$ will only be bounded if $0leq c<1$ (in which case the limit as $ptoinfty$ is $0$).
Please see if my answer is correct.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:36
@KaviRamaMurthy Please see if mine is :)
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:28
@I think your solution is workable
– ShaoyuPei
Sep 15 at 2:12
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
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up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Hint: You are not using the fact that the bound holds for every $theta$. This is important.
To use it: Introduce "artificially" a $theta$: for every $theta>0$,
beginalign
mathbbE|X|^p &= int_0^infty mathbbPXmathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty mathbbPmathrmdt\
&=int_0^infty mathbbPe^theta^2 X^2 > e^theta^2t^2/p dt\
&leq int_0^infty e^-theta^2t^2/p mathbbE[e^theta^2 X^2] dt tagMarkov\
&leq e^ctheta^2int_0^infty e^-theta^2t^2/pdt tagassumption
endalign
Now compute the integral as you did to get a final bound
$$
frace^ctheta^2theta^pGamma(1+p/2) tag$dagger$
$$ which depends on $theta$; then try to choose the best $theta$ as a function of $p$ to optimize this bound.
Important: The above does not appear to go through. Namely, the minimum of $(dagger)$ is achieved for $theta^2 = p/(2c)$, and the final bound is asymptotically $sqrtppi c^p/2$. Thus $(mathbbE|X|^p)^1/p$ will only be bounded if $0leq c<1$ (in which case the limit as $ptoinfty$ is $0$).
Hint: You are not using the fact that the bound holds for every $theta$. This is important.
To use it: Introduce "artificially" a $theta$: for every $theta>0$,
beginalign
mathbbE|X|^p &= int_0^infty mathbbPXmathrmdt\
&= int_0^infty mathbbPmathrmdt\
&=int_0^infty mathbbPe^theta^2 X^2 > e^theta^2t^2/p dt\
&leq int_0^infty e^-theta^2t^2/p mathbbE[e^theta^2 X^2] dt tagMarkov\
&leq e^ctheta^2int_0^infty e^-theta^2t^2/pdt tagassumption
endalign
Now compute the integral as you did to get a final bound
$$
frace^ctheta^2theta^pGamma(1+p/2) tag$dagger$
$$ which depends on $theta$; then try to choose the best $theta$ as a function of $p$ to optimize this bound.
Important: The above does not appear to go through. Namely, the minimum of $(dagger)$ is achieved for $theta^2 = p/(2c)$, and the final bound is asymptotically $sqrtppi c^p/2$. Thus $(mathbbE|X|^p)^1/p$ will only be bounded if $0leq c<1$ (in which case the limit as $ptoinfty$ is $0$).
edited Sep 11 at 20:33
answered Sep 11 at 5:15
Clement C.
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Please see if my answer is correct.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:36
@KaviRamaMurthy Please see if mine is :)
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:28
@I think your solution is workable
– ShaoyuPei
Sep 15 at 2:12
add a comment |
Please see if my answer is correct.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:36
@KaviRamaMurthy Please see if mine is :)
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:28
@I think your solution is workable
– ShaoyuPei
Sep 15 at 2:12
Please see if my answer is correct.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:36
Please see if my answer is correct.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:36
@KaviRamaMurthy Please see if mine is :)
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:28
@KaviRamaMurthy Please see if mine is :)
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:28
@I think your solution is workable
– ShaoyuPei
Sep 15 at 2:12
@I think your solution is workable
– ShaoyuPei
Sep 15 at 2:12
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Low-tech approach: For every $theta$ and every $a>c$, $$E(e^theta^2X^2)geqslant E(e^theta^2X^2;X^2geqslant a)geqslant e^theta^2aP(X^2geqslant a)$$ hence $$P(X^2geqslant a)leqslant e^-theta^2ae^theta^2c$$ The RHS goes to $0$ when $theta^2toinfty$ hence $$P(X^2geqslant a)=0$$ This holds for every $a>c$ hence $X^2leqslant c$ almost surely, QED.
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Low-tech approach: For every $theta$ and every $a>c$, $$E(e^theta^2X^2)geqslant E(e^theta^2X^2;X^2geqslant a)geqslant e^theta^2aP(X^2geqslant a)$$ hence $$P(X^2geqslant a)leqslant e^-theta^2ae^theta^2c$$ The RHS goes to $0$ when $theta^2toinfty$ hence $$P(X^2geqslant a)=0$$ This holds for every $a>c$ hence $X^2leqslant c$ almost surely, QED.
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up vote
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Low-tech approach: For every $theta$ and every $a>c$, $$E(e^theta^2X^2)geqslant E(e^theta^2X^2;X^2geqslant a)geqslant e^theta^2aP(X^2geqslant a)$$ hence $$P(X^2geqslant a)leqslant e^-theta^2ae^theta^2c$$ The RHS goes to $0$ when $theta^2toinfty$ hence $$P(X^2geqslant a)=0$$ This holds for every $a>c$ hence $X^2leqslant c$ almost surely, QED.
Low-tech approach: For every $theta$ and every $a>c$, $$E(e^theta^2X^2)geqslant E(e^theta^2X^2;X^2geqslant a)geqslant e^theta^2aP(X^2geqslant a)$$ hence $$P(X^2geqslant a)leqslant e^-theta^2ae^theta^2c$$ The RHS goes to $0$ when $theta^2toinfty$ hence $$P(X^2geqslant a)=0$$ This holds for every $a>c$ hence $X^2leqslant c$ almost surely, QED.
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We have $Ee^theta^2(X^2-c) leq 1$. By Fatou's Lemma $E lim inf_theta to infty e^theta^2(X^2-c) leq 1$. On the set $X^2 >c$ the $lim inf $ is $infty$. This implies that $X^2 leq c$ almost everywhere.
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We have $Ee^theta^2(X^2-c) leq 1$. By Fatou's Lemma $E lim inf_theta to infty e^theta^2(X^2-c) leq 1$. On the set $X^2 >c$ the $lim inf $ is $infty$. This implies that $X^2 leq c$ almost everywhere.
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We have $Ee^theta^2(X^2-c) leq 1$. By Fatou's Lemma $E lim inf_theta to infty e^theta^2(X^2-c) leq 1$. On the set $X^2 >c$ the $lim inf $ is $infty$. This implies that $X^2 leq c$ almost everywhere.
We have $Ee^theta^2(X^2-c) leq 1$. By Fatou's Lemma $E lim inf_theta to infty e^theta^2(X^2-c) leq 1$. On the set $X^2 >c$ the $lim inf $ is $infty$. This implies that $X^2 leq c$ almost everywhere.
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Please read my answer also. If I didn't make t a mistake this is really trivial.
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Sep 11 at 5:35
ShaoyuPei: And there is an even more trivial approach... Really, you accept answers much too quickly.
– Did
Sep 11 at 10:31
Additionnally, I would be curious to know if you actually managed to complete the proof @ClementC. suggested...
– Did
Sep 11 at 10:33
@Did Me too, to be honest. My solution (assuming is does go through without further assumptions on $c$) is not the most elegant nor shortest, merely one that mimicks the OP's attempt to fix it.
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:17
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@ShaoyuPei Before accepting my answer, have you managed to make my suggestion go through?
– Clement C.
Sep 11 at 20:25