Evaluate $int fracsqrt1+x^8 dxx^13$

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Evaluate: $displaystyleint fracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx$




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I have tried substituting $1+x^8=z^2$ but that did not work. I also tried writing $x^13$ in the denominator as $x^16.x^-3$ hoping that it would bring the integrand into some form but that too did not work.







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    The $sqrt1+x^8$ makes me think that a $x^8=tan^2 u$ sort of substitution might be worth looking at
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Evaluate: $displaystyleint fracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx$




My attempt:



I have tried substituting $1+x^8=z^2$ but that did not work. I also tried writing $x^13$ in the denominator as $x^16.x^-3$ hoping that it would bring the integrand into some form but that too did not work.







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    The $sqrt1+x^8$ makes me think that a $x^8=tan^2 u$ sort of substitution might be worth looking at
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Evaluate: $displaystyleint fracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx$




My attempt:



I have tried substituting $1+x^8=z^2$ but that did not work. I also tried writing $x^13$ in the denominator as $x^16.x^-3$ hoping that it would bring the integrand into some form but that too did not work.







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Evaluate: $displaystyleint fracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx$




My attempt:



I have tried substituting $1+x^8=z^2$ but that did not work. I also tried writing $x^13$ in the denominator as $x^16.x^-3$ hoping that it would bring the integrand into some form but that too did not work.









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    The $sqrt1+x^8$ makes me think that a $x^8=tan^2 u$ sort of substitution might be worth looking at
    – Bruce
    Aug 25 at 10:36













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    The $sqrt1+x^8$ makes me think that a $x^8=tan^2 u$ sort of substitution might be worth looking at
    – Bruce
    Aug 25 at 10:36








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The $sqrt1+x^8$ makes me think that a $x^8=tan^2 u$ sort of substitution might be worth looking at
– Bruce
Aug 25 at 10:36





The $sqrt1+x^8$ makes me think that a $x^8=tan^2 u$ sort of substitution might be worth looking at
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The substitution $x=tan^1/4t$ gives $$intfracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx=intfrac14sin^-4tcos tdt=-frac112sin^-3t+C=-frac112bigg(fracx^81+x^8bigg)^-3/2+C.$$






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    Let $x^4=tan u$ so that $dx=fracsec^2 u4x^3du$



    so our integral becomes



    $int fracsqrt1+tan^2 ux^13.fracsec^2 u4x^3du$



    or rather



    $frac14int fracsec^3 utan^4 udu$



    which is



    $frac14int cos usin^-4 u du$



    which equals



    $-frac112sin^-3u +C$



    now substitute back from $u$ to $x$ which I think is



    $-frac112(fracx^81+x^8)^frac-32+C$






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    • yes I'm happy that last bit is right ... just write $x^8=fracsin^2ucos^2u=fracsin^2u1-sin^2u$ to get $sin u=sqrtfracx^81+x^8$ and you are there
      – Bruce
      Aug 25 at 10:54

















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    $x=dfrac1y,dx=-dfracdyy^2$



    $$intdfracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx=-intdfracy^13sqrty^8+1y^4cdot y^2dy$$



    Set $sqrty^8+1=u $ or $y^8+1=v$






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      Write the integral as $$int frac sqrt 1+frac 1x^8x^9 dx$$ Use the substitution $$1+frac 1x^8=t^2$$ to get the new integral as $$int frac -t^24dt$$ Which is very elementary to do and then after obtaining the answer resubstitute the value of $t$.






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        Hint We can rewrite the radical in the integrand in the familiar form $sqrt1 + u^2$ if we substitute $$u = x^4, qquad du = 4 x^3 ,dx .$$






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          The substitution $x=tan^1/4t$ gives $$intfracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx=intfrac14sin^-4tcos tdt=-frac112sin^-3t+C=-frac112bigg(fracx^81+x^8bigg)^-3/2+C.$$






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            The substitution $x=tan^1/4t$ gives $$intfracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx=intfrac14sin^-4tcos tdt=-frac112sin^-3t+C=-frac112bigg(fracx^81+x^8bigg)^-3/2+C.$$






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              The substitution $x=tan^1/4t$ gives $$intfracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx=intfrac14sin^-4tcos tdt=-frac112sin^-3t+C=-frac112bigg(fracx^81+x^8bigg)^-3/2+C.$$






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              The substitution $x=tan^1/4t$ gives $$intfracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx=intfrac14sin^-4tcos tdt=-frac112sin^-3t+C=-frac112bigg(fracx^81+x^8bigg)^-3/2+C.$$







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                  Let $x^4=tan u$ so that $dx=fracsec^2 u4x^3du$



                  so our integral becomes



                  $int fracsqrt1+tan^2 ux^13.fracsec^2 u4x^3du$



                  or rather



                  $frac14int fracsec^3 utan^4 udu$



                  which is



                  $frac14int cos usin^-4 u du$



                  which equals



                  $-frac112sin^-3u +C$



                  now substitute back from $u$ to $x$ which I think is



                  $-frac112(fracx^81+x^8)^frac-32+C$






                  share|cite|improve this answer






















                  • yes I'm happy that last bit is right ... just write $x^8=fracsin^2ucos^2u=fracsin^2u1-sin^2u$ to get $sin u=sqrtfracx^81+x^8$ and you are there
                    – Bruce
                    Aug 25 at 10:54














                  up vote
                  3
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                  Let $x^4=tan u$ so that $dx=fracsec^2 u4x^3du$



                  so our integral becomes



                  $int fracsqrt1+tan^2 ux^13.fracsec^2 u4x^3du$



                  or rather



                  $frac14int fracsec^3 utan^4 udu$



                  which is



                  $frac14int cos usin^-4 u du$



                  which equals



                  $-frac112sin^-3u +C$



                  now substitute back from $u$ to $x$ which I think is



                  $-frac112(fracx^81+x^8)^frac-32+C$






                  share|cite|improve this answer






















                  • yes I'm happy that last bit is right ... just write $x^8=fracsin^2ucos^2u=fracsin^2u1-sin^2u$ to get $sin u=sqrtfracx^81+x^8$ and you are there
                    – Bruce
                    Aug 25 at 10:54












                  up vote
                  3
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                  up vote
                  3
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                  Let $x^4=tan u$ so that $dx=fracsec^2 u4x^3du$



                  so our integral becomes



                  $int fracsqrt1+tan^2 ux^13.fracsec^2 u4x^3du$



                  or rather



                  $frac14int fracsec^3 utan^4 udu$



                  which is



                  $frac14int cos usin^-4 u du$



                  which equals



                  $-frac112sin^-3u +C$



                  now substitute back from $u$ to $x$ which I think is



                  $-frac112(fracx^81+x^8)^frac-32+C$






                  share|cite|improve this answer














                  Let $x^4=tan u$ so that $dx=fracsec^2 u4x^3du$



                  so our integral becomes



                  $int fracsqrt1+tan^2 ux^13.fracsec^2 u4x^3du$



                  or rather



                  $frac14int fracsec^3 utan^4 udu$



                  which is



                  $frac14int cos usin^-4 u du$



                  which equals



                  $-frac112sin^-3u +C$



                  now substitute back from $u$ to $x$ which I think is



                  $-frac112(fracx^81+x^8)^frac-32+C$







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                  answered Aug 25 at 10:43









                  Bruce

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                  • yes I'm happy that last bit is right ... just write $x^8=fracsin^2ucos^2u=fracsin^2u1-sin^2u$ to get $sin u=sqrtfracx^81+x^8$ and you are there
                    – Bruce
                    Aug 25 at 10:54
















                  • yes I'm happy that last bit is right ... just write $x^8=fracsin^2ucos^2u=fracsin^2u1-sin^2u$ to get $sin u=sqrtfracx^81+x^8$ and you are there
                    – Bruce
                    Aug 25 at 10:54















                  yes I'm happy that last bit is right ... just write $x^8=fracsin^2ucos^2u=fracsin^2u1-sin^2u$ to get $sin u=sqrtfracx^81+x^8$ and you are there
                  – Bruce
                  Aug 25 at 10:54




                  yes I'm happy that last bit is right ... just write $x^8=fracsin^2ucos^2u=fracsin^2u1-sin^2u$ to get $sin u=sqrtfracx^81+x^8$ and you are there
                  – Bruce
                  Aug 25 at 10:54










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                  $x=dfrac1y,dx=-dfracdyy^2$



                  $$intdfracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx=-intdfracy^13sqrty^8+1y^4cdot y^2dy$$



                  Set $sqrty^8+1=u $ or $y^8+1=v$






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                    $x=dfrac1y,dx=-dfracdyy^2$



                    $$intdfracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx=-intdfracy^13sqrty^8+1y^4cdot y^2dy$$



                    Set $sqrty^8+1=u $ or $y^8+1=v$






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                      $x=dfrac1y,dx=-dfracdyy^2$



                      $$intdfracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx=-intdfracy^13sqrty^8+1y^4cdot y^2dy$$



                      Set $sqrty^8+1=u $ or $y^8+1=v$






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                      $x=dfrac1y,dx=-dfracdyy^2$



                      $$intdfracsqrt1+x^8x^13dx=-intdfracy^13sqrty^8+1y^4cdot y^2dy$$



                      Set $sqrty^8+1=u $ or $y^8+1=v$







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                          Write the integral as $$int frac sqrt 1+frac 1x^8x^9 dx$$ Use the substitution $$1+frac 1x^8=t^2$$ to get the new integral as $$int frac -t^24dt$$ Which is very elementary to do and then after obtaining the answer resubstitute the value of $t$.






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                            Write the integral as $$int frac sqrt 1+frac 1x^8x^9 dx$$ Use the substitution $$1+frac 1x^8=t^2$$ to get the new integral as $$int frac -t^24dt$$ Which is very elementary to do and then after obtaining the answer resubstitute the value of $t$.






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                              Write the integral as $$int frac sqrt 1+frac 1x^8x^9 dx$$ Use the substitution $$1+frac 1x^8=t^2$$ to get the new integral as $$int frac -t^24dt$$ Which is very elementary to do and then after obtaining the answer resubstitute the value of $t$.






                              share|cite|improve this answer














                              Write the integral as $$int frac sqrt 1+frac 1x^8x^9 dx$$ Use the substitution $$1+frac 1x^8=t^2$$ to get the new integral as $$int frac -t^24dt$$ Which is very elementary to do and then after obtaining the answer resubstitute the value of $t$.







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                                  Hint We can rewrite the radical in the integrand in the familiar form $sqrt1 + u^2$ if we substitute $$u = x^4, qquad du = 4 x^3 ,dx .$$






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                                    Hint We can rewrite the radical in the integrand in the familiar form $sqrt1 + u^2$ if we substitute $$u = x^4, qquad du = 4 x^3 ,dx .$$






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                                      Hint We can rewrite the radical in the integrand in the familiar form $sqrt1 + u^2$ if we substitute $$u = x^4, qquad du = 4 x^3 ,dx .$$






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                                      Hint We can rewrite the radical in the integrand in the familiar form $sqrt1 + u^2$ if we substitute $$u = x^4, qquad du = 4 x^3 ,dx .$$







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