When The curvature is maximum of $x^frac12+y^frac12=a^frac12$

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Find Where The Curvature has an extremum ?
$$x^frac12+y^frac12=a^frac12$$
MY APPROACH




$$x^frac12+y^frac12=a^frac12. . . . . (1)$$



$$Rightarrow y^frac12=a^frac12-x^frac12$$
now differntiating both sides we will get:
$$frac12y^frac-12fracdydx=(-1)frac12x^frac-12$$
$$Rightarrow fracdydx=-(fracyx)^frac12. . . . . .(2)$$
Now differentiating again with respect to x again:
$$fracd^2ydx^2=-bigg(frac12(fracyx)^frac-12.fracddx(fracyx)bigg)$$
$$=-frac12Bigg(fracx^frac12y^frac12bigg(fracddx(frac1x)y-fracdydx(frac1x)bigg)Bigg)$$
$$=-frac12Bigg(fracx^frac12y^frac12bigg(frac-yx^2-fracdydx(frac1x)bigg)Bigg)$$
now put the value of $fracdydx$ :
$$=frac12Bigg(fracx^frac12y^frac12bigg(fracyx^2-(fracyx)^frac12frac1xbigg)Bigg)$$
After simplifying i got :



$$fracd^2ydx^2=frac12xbigg(fracy^frac12x^2-1bigg). . . . .(3)$$
but from simplification of equation (2) in terms of $a$ wil result :
$$fracdydx=1-(fracax)^frac12$$
here i can easily simlify this to get $fracd^2ydx^2$ i.e.
$$Rightarrowfracd^2ydx^2=fracsqrt a2xsqrt x. . . . .(4)$$
I dont know why i am unable to reduce (3) to (4).May be there exists some calculation error,even thats not my question.
proceeding to find radius of curvature and curvature :



FROM FORMULA
$$rho=fracbigg(1+(fracdydx)^2bigg)^frac32fracd^2ydx^2$$
putting the value of (2) and (4):
$$Rightarrow rho=fracbigg(1+fracyxbigg)^frac322xsqrt xsqrt a$$
$$Rightarrowrho=frac2(x+y)^frac32sqrt a$$
so curvature is
$$frac1rho=kappa=fracsqrt a2(2x+a-2sqrt asqrt x)^3/2$$
[notice that i have put y in terms of a nad x]



NOW BEGINS THE PROBLEM




for being extremum
$fracdkappadx =0 $ and i have to check the sign of $fracd^2kappadx^2$ :
putting the value of $kappa$
as you can see in the image :
$$fracdkappadx=frac3sqrt a(2-fracsqrt asqrt x)4(2x-2sqrt xsqrt a+a)^frac32$$
Now letting this to zero we have :
$$2=fracsqrt asqrt x$$
thus i am getting $x=fraca4$ as a critical point.
BUT the answer is given as $fracsqrt 2a$
you can even see by inspection $x=fraca4$ is not a critical point.
see the graph
please help and let me know where i have made mistake.
THIS IS MY HUMBLE REQUEST.










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    Why not to think about a parametrization such as $x=a cos^4(t)$, $y=s sin^4(t)$ ?
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QUESTION




Find Where The Curvature has an extremum ?
$$x^frac12+y^frac12=a^frac12$$
MY APPROACH




$$x^frac12+y^frac12=a^frac12. . . . . (1)$$



$$Rightarrow y^frac12=a^frac12-x^frac12$$
now differntiating both sides we will get:
$$frac12y^frac-12fracdydx=(-1)frac12x^frac-12$$
$$Rightarrow fracdydx=-(fracyx)^frac12. . . . . .(2)$$
Now differentiating again with respect to x again:
$$fracd^2ydx^2=-bigg(frac12(fracyx)^frac-12.fracddx(fracyx)bigg)$$
$$=-frac12Bigg(fracx^frac12y^frac12bigg(fracddx(frac1x)y-fracdydx(frac1x)bigg)Bigg)$$
$$=-frac12Bigg(fracx^frac12y^frac12bigg(frac-yx^2-fracdydx(frac1x)bigg)Bigg)$$
now put the value of $fracdydx$ :
$$=frac12Bigg(fracx^frac12y^frac12bigg(fracyx^2-(fracyx)^frac12frac1xbigg)Bigg)$$
After simplifying i got :



$$fracd^2ydx^2=frac12xbigg(fracy^frac12x^2-1bigg). . . . .(3)$$
but from simplification of equation (2) in terms of $a$ wil result :
$$fracdydx=1-(fracax)^frac12$$
here i can easily simlify this to get $fracd^2ydx^2$ i.e.
$$Rightarrowfracd^2ydx^2=fracsqrt a2xsqrt x. . . . .(4)$$
I dont know why i am unable to reduce (3) to (4).May be there exists some calculation error,even thats not my question.
proceeding to find radius of curvature and curvature :



FROM FORMULA
$$rho=fracbigg(1+(fracdydx)^2bigg)^frac32fracd^2ydx^2$$
putting the value of (2) and (4):
$$Rightarrow rho=fracbigg(1+fracyxbigg)^frac322xsqrt xsqrt a$$
$$Rightarrowrho=frac2(x+y)^frac32sqrt a$$
so curvature is
$$frac1rho=kappa=fracsqrt a2(2x+a-2sqrt asqrt x)^3/2$$
[notice that i have put y in terms of a nad x]



NOW BEGINS THE PROBLEM




for being extremum
$fracdkappadx =0 $ and i have to check the sign of $fracd^2kappadx^2$ :
putting the value of $kappa$
as you can see in the image :
$$fracdkappadx=frac3sqrt a(2-fracsqrt asqrt x)4(2x-2sqrt xsqrt a+a)^frac32$$
Now letting this to zero we have :
$$2=fracsqrt asqrt x$$
thus i am getting $x=fraca4$ as a critical point.
BUT the answer is given as $fracsqrt 2a$
you can even see by inspection $x=fraca4$ is not a critical point.
see the graph
please help and let me know where i have made mistake.
THIS IS MY HUMBLE REQUEST.










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    Why not to think about a parametrization such as $x=a cos^4(t)$, $y=s sin^4(t)$ ?
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 4 at 10:49












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QUESTION




Find Where The Curvature has an extremum ?
$$x^frac12+y^frac12=a^frac12$$
MY APPROACH




$$x^frac12+y^frac12=a^frac12. . . . . (1)$$



$$Rightarrow y^frac12=a^frac12-x^frac12$$
now differntiating both sides we will get:
$$frac12y^frac-12fracdydx=(-1)frac12x^frac-12$$
$$Rightarrow fracdydx=-(fracyx)^frac12. . . . . .(2)$$
Now differentiating again with respect to x again:
$$fracd^2ydx^2=-bigg(frac12(fracyx)^frac-12.fracddx(fracyx)bigg)$$
$$=-frac12Bigg(fracx^frac12y^frac12bigg(fracddx(frac1x)y-fracdydx(frac1x)bigg)Bigg)$$
$$=-frac12Bigg(fracx^frac12y^frac12bigg(frac-yx^2-fracdydx(frac1x)bigg)Bigg)$$
now put the value of $fracdydx$ :
$$=frac12Bigg(fracx^frac12y^frac12bigg(fracyx^2-(fracyx)^frac12frac1xbigg)Bigg)$$
After simplifying i got :



$$fracd^2ydx^2=frac12xbigg(fracy^frac12x^2-1bigg). . . . .(3)$$
but from simplification of equation (2) in terms of $a$ wil result :
$$fracdydx=1-(fracax)^frac12$$
here i can easily simlify this to get $fracd^2ydx^2$ i.e.
$$Rightarrowfracd^2ydx^2=fracsqrt a2xsqrt x. . . . .(4)$$
I dont know why i am unable to reduce (3) to (4).May be there exists some calculation error,even thats not my question.
proceeding to find radius of curvature and curvature :



FROM FORMULA
$$rho=fracbigg(1+(fracdydx)^2bigg)^frac32fracd^2ydx^2$$
putting the value of (2) and (4):
$$Rightarrow rho=fracbigg(1+fracyxbigg)^frac322xsqrt xsqrt a$$
$$Rightarrowrho=frac2(x+y)^frac32sqrt a$$
so curvature is
$$frac1rho=kappa=fracsqrt a2(2x+a-2sqrt asqrt x)^3/2$$
[notice that i have put y in terms of a nad x]



NOW BEGINS THE PROBLEM




for being extremum
$fracdkappadx =0 $ and i have to check the sign of $fracd^2kappadx^2$ :
putting the value of $kappa$
as you can see in the image :
$$fracdkappadx=frac3sqrt a(2-fracsqrt asqrt x)4(2x-2sqrt xsqrt a+a)^frac32$$
Now letting this to zero we have :
$$2=fracsqrt asqrt x$$
thus i am getting $x=fraca4$ as a critical point.
BUT the answer is given as $fracsqrt 2a$
you can even see by inspection $x=fraca4$ is not a critical point.
see the graph
please help and let me know where i have made mistake.
THIS IS MY HUMBLE REQUEST.










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QUESTION




Find Where The Curvature has an extremum ?
$$x^frac12+y^frac12=a^frac12$$
MY APPROACH




$$x^frac12+y^frac12=a^frac12. . . . . (1)$$



$$Rightarrow y^frac12=a^frac12-x^frac12$$
now differntiating both sides we will get:
$$frac12y^frac-12fracdydx=(-1)frac12x^frac-12$$
$$Rightarrow fracdydx=-(fracyx)^frac12. . . . . .(2)$$
Now differentiating again with respect to x again:
$$fracd^2ydx^2=-bigg(frac12(fracyx)^frac-12.fracddx(fracyx)bigg)$$
$$=-frac12Bigg(fracx^frac12y^frac12bigg(fracddx(frac1x)y-fracdydx(frac1x)bigg)Bigg)$$
$$=-frac12Bigg(fracx^frac12y^frac12bigg(frac-yx^2-fracdydx(frac1x)bigg)Bigg)$$
now put the value of $fracdydx$ :
$$=frac12Bigg(fracx^frac12y^frac12bigg(fracyx^2-(fracyx)^frac12frac1xbigg)Bigg)$$
After simplifying i got :



$$fracd^2ydx^2=frac12xbigg(fracy^frac12x^2-1bigg). . . . .(3)$$
but from simplification of equation (2) in terms of $a$ wil result :
$$fracdydx=1-(fracax)^frac12$$
here i can easily simlify this to get $fracd^2ydx^2$ i.e.
$$Rightarrowfracd^2ydx^2=fracsqrt a2xsqrt x. . . . .(4)$$
I dont know why i am unable to reduce (3) to (4).May be there exists some calculation error,even thats not my question.
proceeding to find radius of curvature and curvature :



FROM FORMULA
$$rho=fracbigg(1+(fracdydx)^2bigg)^frac32fracd^2ydx^2$$
putting the value of (2) and (4):
$$Rightarrow rho=fracbigg(1+fracyxbigg)^frac322xsqrt xsqrt a$$
$$Rightarrowrho=frac2(x+y)^frac32sqrt a$$
so curvature is
$$frac1rho=kappa=fracsqrt a2(2x+a-2sqrt asqrt x)^3/2$$
[notice that i have put y in terms of a nad x]



NOW BEGINS THE PROBLEM




for being extremum
$fracdkappadx =0 $ and i have to check the sign of $fracd^2kappadx^2$ :
putting the value of $kappa$
as you can see in the image :
$$fracdkappadx=frac3sqrt a(2-fracsqrt asqrt x)4(2x-2sqrt xsqrt a+a)^frac32$$
Now letting this to zero we have :
$$2=fracsqrt asqrt x$$
thus i am getting $x=fraca4$ as a critical point.
BUT the answer is given as $fracsqrt 2a$
you can even see by inspection $x=fraca4$ is not a critical point.
see the graph
please help and let me know where i have made mistake.
THIS IS MY HUMBLE REQUEST.







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    Why not to think about a parametrization such as $x=a cos^4(t)$, $y=s sin^4(t)$ ?
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 4 at 10:49












  • 1




    Why not to think about a parametrization such as $x=a cos^4(t)$, $y=s sin^4(t)$ ?
    – Claude Leibovici
    Sep 4 at 10:49







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Why not to think about a parametrization such as $x=a cos^4(t)$, $y=s sin^4(t)$ ?
– Claude Leibovici
Sep 4 at 10:49




Why not to think about a parametrization such as $x=a cos^4(t)$, $y=s sin^4(t)$ ?
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Perhaps not a complete answer, but below you will find my solution to the problem, which leads to the same answer as yours, so we are either both wrong or the answer sheet is wrong.



Parameterize your curve as
$$ x(t) = acos^4 t, quad y(t) = asin^4 t. $$
Then
beginalign
dot x(t) &= -4acos^3 t sin t,\
ddot x(t) &= -4a(-3cos^2tsin^2t + cos^4 t)\
&= -4acos^2 t(cos^2t -3sin^2 t),
endalign
and
beginalign
dot y(t) &= 4asin^3 t cos t,\
ddot y(t) &= 4a(3sin^2tcos^2t - sin^4 t)\
&= 4asin^2 t(3cos^2t -sin^2 t).
endalign
Then
beginalign
dot x ddot y - ddot x dot y
&= -16a^2cos^3 t sin^3 t (3cos^2t -sin^2 t) + 16a^2sin^3 t cos^3 t(cos^2t -3sin^2 t)\
&= 16a^2cos^3 t sin^3 t (-4cos^2 t - 4sin^2t) = -64 a^2 cos^3 t sin^3 t,
endalign
and
beginalign
(dot x^2 + dot y^2 )^3/2
&= (16a^2cos^6tsin^2t+16a^2sin^6tcos^2t)^3/2\
&= 64a^3cos^3tsin^3t (cos^4t+sin^4t)^3/2.
endalign
This gives
$$ kappa(t) = fracdot x ddot y - ddot x dot y(dot x^2 + dot y^2 )^3/2 = - frac1a(cos^4t+sin^4t)^3/2.$$
Now
beginalign
dotkappa(t) &= frac32afrac-4cos^3tsin t + 4sin^3 tcos t(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= frac32afrac4cos tsin t(sin^2t- cos^2 t(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= frac32afrac-2sin(2t)cos(2t)(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= -frac3sin(4t)2a(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2.
endalign
So $dot kappa = 0$ whenever $sin(4t) = 0,$ which happens for
$$ 4t = pi n Leftrightarrow t = fracpi4n, quad nin mathbbZ. $$
Since (I presume that) $x,y > 0$, we are considering $t in (0, pi/2)$, so the only valid option is $t = pi/4$, and then
$$ xleft(fracpi4right) = acos^4left(fracpi4right) = fracasqrt2^4 = fraca4, $$
which confirms your answer.



Also, the graph does seem to indicate that the curvature has an extremum at this point. Note that we are not looking for an extremum of the curve, but rather the extremum of its curvature.






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    Thanks,you are right if we consider the graph st x=a/4 we see that there exists little change around its neighbourhood.So i guess it the minima.
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:08










  • @NewBornMATH I'm glad if it helped!
    – Sobi
    Sep 4 at 11:09










  • Ya if i take x1=a/4 then at x1-delta to x1+delta for a small delta and take that small segment to join it around then i have a radius which tends to infinity thus curvature tends to zero.which proves we both are right :)
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:13










  • @NewBornMATH It's always good to hear that!
    – Sobi
    Sep 4 at 11:14










  • According to you if x=acos^4t and y=asin^4t then x^1/2+y^1/2=a^1/2.cos^2t+a^1/2.sin^2t=2a^1/2 but it given as a^1/2.
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:23

















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the equation $$sqrtx+sqrty=sqrta$$ is equivalent to $$y=x-2sqrtax+a,~~~0leq x leq a.$$



Hence, $$y'=1-fracasqrtax,~~~y''=fraca2xsqrtax.$$



Therefore, $$k=fracy'(1+y''^2)^3/2=frac12sqrtfraca(2x-2sqrtax+a)^3.$$



Notice that $$2x-2sqrtax+a=2left(sqrtx-fracsqrta2right)^2+fraca2geq fraca2$$ with the equality holding if and only if $sqrtx=dfracsqrta2$, namely $x=dfraca4$. As a result, $k$ takes its maximum value $k=dfracsqrt2a$ at $x=dfraca4.$






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  • How you can say it is maximum not minimum ?
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  • you minimize the denominator and get the maximum...
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    Sep 4 at 11:38










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Perhaps not a complete answer, but below you will find my solution to the problem, which leads to the same answer as yours, so we are either both wrong or the answer sheet is wrong.



Parameterize your curve as
$$ x(t) = acos^4 t, quad y(t) = asin^4 t. $$
Then
beginalign
dot x(t) &= -4acos^3 t sin t,\
ddot x(t) &= -4a(-3cos^2tsin^2t + cos^4 t)\
&= -4acos^2 t(cos^2t -3sin^2 t),
endalign
and
beginalign
dot y(t) &= 4asin^3 t cos t,\
ddot y(t) &= 4a(3sin^2tcos^2t - sin^4 t)\
&= 4asin^2 t(3cos^2t -sin^2 t).
endalign
Then
beginalign
dot x ddot y - ddot x dot y
&= -16a^2cos^3 t sin^3 t (3cos^2t -sin^2 t) + 16a^2sin^3 t cos^3 t(cos^2t -3sin^2 t)\
&= 16a^2cos^3 t sin^3 t (-4cos^2 t - 4sin^2t) = -64 a^2 cos^3 t sin^3 t,
endalign
and
beginalign
(dot x^2 + dot y^2 )^3/2
&= (16a^2cos^6tsin^2t+16a^2sin^6tcos^2t)^3/2\
&= 64a^3cos^3tsin^3t (cos^4t+sin^4t)^3/2.
endalign
This gives
$$ kappa(t) = fracdot x ddot y - ddot x dot y(dot x^2 + dot y^2 )^3/2 = - frac1a(cos^4t+sin^4t)^3/2.$$
Now
beginalign
dotkappa(t) &= frac32afrac-4cos^3tsin t + 4sin^3 tcos t(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= frac32afrac4cos tsin t(sin^2t- cos^2 t(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= frac32afrac-2sin(2t)cos(2t)(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= -frac3sin(4t)2a(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2.
endalign
So $dot kappa = 0$ whenever $sin(4t) = 0,$ which happens for
$$ 4t = pi n Leftrightarrow t = fracpi4n, quad nin mathbbZ. $$
Since (I presume that) $x,y > 0$, we are considering $t in (0, pi/2)$, so the only valid option is $t = pi/4$, and then
$$ xleft(fracpi4right) = acos^4left(fracpi4right) = fracasqrt2^4 = fraca4, $$
which confirms your answer.



Also, the graph does seem to indicate that the curvature has an extremum at this point. Note that we are not looking for an extremum of the curve, but rather the extremum of its curvature.






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    Thanks,you are right if we consider the graph st x=a/4 we see that there exists little change around its neighbourhood.So i guess it the minima.
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:08










  • @NewBornMATH I'm glad if it helped!
    – Sobi
    Sep 4 at 11:09










  • Ya if i take x1=a/4 then at x1-delta to x1+delta for a small delta and take that small segment to join it around then i have a radius which tends to infinity thus curvature tends to zero.which proves we both are right :)
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:13










  • @NewBornMATH It's always good to hear that!
    – Sobi
    Sep 4 at 11:14










  • According to you if x=acos^4t and y=asin^4t then x^1/2+y^1/2=a^1/2.cos^2t+a^1/2.sin^2t=2a^1/2 but it given as a^1/2.
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:23














up vote
3
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Perhaps not a complete answer, but below you will find my solution to the problem, which leads to the same answer as yours, so we are either both wrong or the answer sheet is wrong.



Parameterize your curve as
$$ x(t) = acos^4 t, quad y(t) = asin^4 t. $$
Then
beginalign
dot x(t) &= -4acos^3 t sin t,\
ddot x(t) &= -4a(-3cos^2tsin^2t + cos^4 t)\
&= -4acos^2 t(cos^2t -3sin^2 t),
endalign
and
beginalign
dot y(t) &= 4asin^3 t cos t,\
ddot y(t) &= 4a(3sin^2tcos^2t - sin^4 t)\
&= 4asin^2 t(3cos^2t -sin^2 t).
endalign
Then
beginalign
dot x ddot y - ddot x dot y
&= -16a^2cos^3 t sin^3 t (3cos^2t -sin^2 t) + 16a^2sin^3 t cos^3 t(cos^2t -3sin^2 t)\
&= 16a^2cos^3 t sin^3 t (-4cos^2 t - 4sin^2t) = -64 a^2 cos^3 t sin^3 t,
endalign
and
beginalign
(dot x^2 + dot y^2 )^3/2
&= (16a^2cos^6tsin^2t+16a^2sin^6tcos^2t)^3/2\
&= 64a^3cos^3tsin^3t (cos^4t+sin^4t)^3/2.
endalign
This gives
$$ kappa(t) = fracdot x ddot y - ddot x dot y(dot x^2 + dot y^2 )^3/2 = - frac1a(cos^4t+sin^4t)^3/2.$$
Now
beginalign
dotkappa(t) &= frac32afrac-4cos^3tsin t + 4sin^3 tcos t(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= frac32afrac4cos tsin t(sin^2t- cos^2 t(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= frac32afrac-2sin(2t)cos(2t)(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= -frac3sin(4t)2a(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2.
endalign
So $dot kappa = 0$ whenever $sin(4t) = 0,$ which happens for
$$ 4t = pi n Leftrightarrow t = fracpi4n, quad nin mathbbZ. $$
Since (I presume that) $x,y > 0$, we are considering $t in (0, pi/2)$, so the only valid option is $t = pi/4$, and then
$$ xleft(fracpi4right) = acos^4left(fracpi4right) = fracasqrt2^4 = fraca4, $$
which confirms your answer.



Also, the graph does seem to indicate that the curvature has an extremum at this point. Note that we are not looking for an extremum of the curve, but rather the extremum of its curvature.






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    Thanks,you are right if we consider the graph st x=a/4 we see that there exists little change around its neighbourhood.So i guess it the minima.
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:08










  • @NewBornMATH I'm glad if it helped!
    – Sobi
    Sep 4 at 11:09










  • Ya if i take x1=a/4 then at x1-delta to x1+delta for a small delta and take that small segment to join it around then i have a radius which tends to infinity thus curvature tends to zero.which proves we both are right :)
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:13










  • @NewBornMATH It's always good to hear that!
    – Sobi
    Sep 4 at 11:14










  • According to you if x=acos^4t and y=asin^4t then x^1/2+y^1/2=a^1/2.cos^2t+a^1/2.sin^2t=2a^1/2 but it given as a^1/2.
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Perhaps not a complete answer, but below you will find my solution to the problem, which leads to the same answer as yours, so we are either both wrong or the answer sheet is wrong.



Parameterize your curve as
$$ x(t) = acos^4 t, quad y(t) = asin^4 t. $$
Then
beginalign
dot x(t) &= -4acos^3 t sin t,\
ddot x(t) &= -4a(-3cos^2tsin^2t + cos^4 t)\
&= -4acos^2 t(cos^2t -3sin^2 t),
endalign
and
beginalign
dot y(t) &= 4asin^3 t cos t,\
ddot y(t) &= 4a(3sin^2tcos^2t - sin^4 t)\
&= 4asin^2 t(3cos^2t -sin^2 t).
endalign
Then
beginalign
dot x ddot y - ddot x dot y
&= -16a^2cos^3 t sin^3 t (3cos^2t -sin^2 t) + 16a^2sin^3 t cos^3 t(cos^2t -3sin^2 t)\
&= 16a^2cos^3 t sin^3 t (-4cos^2 t - 4sin^2t) = -64 a^2 cos^3 t sin^3 t,
endalign
and
beginalign
(dot x^2 + dot y^2 )^3/2
&= (16a^2cos^6tsin^2t+16a^2sin^6tcos^2t)^3/2\
&= 64a^3cos^3tsin^3t (cos^4t+sin^4t)^3/2.
endalign
This gives
$$ kappa(t) = fracdot x ddot y - ddot x dot y(dot x^2 + dot y^2 )^3/2 = - frac1a(cos^4t+sin^4t)^3/2.$$
Now
beginalign
dotkappa(t) &= frac32afrac-4cos^3tsin t + 4sin^3 tcos t(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= frac32afrac4cos tsin t(sin^2t- cos^2 t(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= frac32afrac-2sin(2t)cos(2t)(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= -frac3sin(4t)2a(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2.
endalign
So $dot kappa = 0$ whenever $sin(4t) = 0,$ which happens for
$$ 4t = pi n Leftrightarrow t = fracpi4n, quad nin mathbbZ. $$
Since (I presume that) $x,y > 0$, we are considering $t in (0, pi/2)$, so the only valid option is $t = pi/4$, and then
$$ xleft(fracpi4right) = acos^4left(fracpi4right) = fracasqrt2^4 = fraca4, $$
which confirms your answer.



Also, the graph does seem to indicate that the curvature has an extremum at this point. Note that we are not looking for an extremum of the curve, but rather the extremum of its curvature.






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Perhaps not a complete answer, but below you will find my solution to the problem, which leads to the same answer as yours, so we are either both wrong or the answer sheet is wrong.



Parameterize your curve as
$$ x(t) = acos^4 t, quad y(t) = asin^4 t. $$
Then
beginalign
dot x(t) &= -4acos^3 t sin t,\
ddot x(t) &= -4a(-3cos^2tsin^2t + cos^4 t)\
&= -4acos^2 t(cos^2t -3sin^2 t),
endalign
and
beginalign
dot y(t) &= 4asin^3 t cos t,\
ddot y(t) &= 4a(3sin^2tcos^2t - sin^4 t)\
&= 4asin^2 t(3cos^2t -sin^2 t).
endalign
Then
beginalign
dot x ddot y - ddot x dot y
&= -16a^2cos^3 t sin^3 t (3cos^2t -sin^2 t) + 16a^2sin^3 t cos^3 t(cos^2t -3sin^2 t)\
&= 16a^2cos^3 t sin^3 t (-4cos^2 t - 4sin^2t) = -64 a^2 cos^3 t sin^3 t,
endalign
and
beginalign
(dot x^2 + dot y^2 )^3/2
&= (16a^2cos^6tsin^2t+16a^2sin^6tcos^2t)^3/2\
&= 64a^3cos^3tsin^3t (cos^4t+sin^4t)^3/2.
endalign
This gives
$$ kappa(t) = fracdot x ddot y - ddot x dot y(dot x^2 + dot y^2 )^3/2 = - frac1a(cos^4t+sin^4t)^3/2.$$
Now
beginalign
dotkappa(t) &= frac32afrac-4cos^3tsin t + 4sin^3 tcos t(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= frac32afrac4cos tsin t(sin^2t- cos^2 t(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= frac32afrac-2sin(2t)cos(2t)(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2\
&= -frac3sin(4t)2a(cos^4t+sin^4t)^5/2.
endalign
So $dot kappa = 0$ whenever $sin(4t) = 0,$ which happens for
$$ 4t = pi n Leftrightarrow t = fracpi4n, quad nin mathbbZ. $$
Since (I presume that) $x,y > 0$, we are considering $t in (0, pi/2)$, so the only valid option is $t = pi/4$, and then
$$ xleft(fracpi4right) = acos^4left(fracpi4right) = fracasqrt2^4 = fraca4, $$
which confirms your answer.



Also, the graph does seem to indicate that the curvature has an extremum at this point. Note that we are not looking for an extremum of the curve, but rather the extremum of its curvature.







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    Thanks,you are right if we consider the graph st x=a/4 we see that there exists little change around its neighbourhood.So i guess it the minima.
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:08










  • @NewBornMATH I'm glad if it helped!
    – Sobi
    Sep 4 at 11:09










  • Ya if i take x1=a/4 then at x1-delta to x1+delta for a small delta and take that small segment to join it around then i have a radius which tends to infinity thus curvature tends to zero.which proves we both are right :)
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:13










  • @NewBornMATH It's always good to hear that!
    – Sobi
    Sep 4 at 11:14










  • According to you if x=acos^4t and y=asin^4t then x^1/2+y^1/2=a^1/2.cos^2t+a^1/2.sin^2t=2a^1/2 but it given as a^1/2.
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:23












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    Thanks,you are right if we consider the graph st x=a/4 we see that there exists little change around its neighbourhood.So i guess it the minima.
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:08










  • @NewBornMATH I'm glad if it helped!
    – Sobi
    Sep 4 at 11:09










  • Ya if i take x1=a/4 then at x1-delta to x1+delta for a small delta and take that small segment to join it around then i have a radius which tends to infinity thus curvature tends to zero.which proves we both are right :)
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:13










  • @NewBornMATH It's always good to hear that!
    – Sobi
    Sep 4 at 11:14










  • According to you if x=acos^4t and y=asin^4t then x^1/2+y^1/2=a^1/2.cos^2t+a^1/2.sin^2t=2a^1/2 but it given as a^1/2.
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:23







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Thanks,you are right if we consider the graph st x=a/4 we see that there exists little change around its neighbourhood.So i guess it the minima.
– NewBornMATH
Sep 4 at 11:08




Thanks,you are right if we consider the graph st x=a/4 we see that there exists little change around its neighbourhood.So i guess it the minima.
– NewBornMATH
Sep 4 at 11:08












@NewBornMATH I'm glad if it helped!
– Sobi
Sep 4 at 11:09




@NewBornMATH I'm glad if it helped!
– Sobi
Sep 4 at 11:09












Ya if i take x1=a/4 then at x1-delta to x1+delta for a small delta and take that small segment to join it around then i have a radius which tends to infinity thus curvature tends to zero.which proves we both are right :)
– NewBornMATH
Sep 4 at 11:13




Ya if i take x1=a/4 then at x1-delta to x1+delta for a small delta and take that small segment to join it around then i have a radius which tends to infinity thus curvature tends to zero.which proves we both are right :)
– NewBornMATH
Sep 4 at 11:13












@NewBornMATH It's always good to hear that!
– Sobi
Sep 4 at 11:14




@NewBornMATH It's always good to hear that!
– Sobi
Sep 4 at 11:14












According to you if x=acos^4t and y=asin^4t then x^1/2+y^1/2=a^1/2.cos^2t+a^1/2.sin^2t=2a^1/2 but it given as a^1/2.
– NewBornMATH
Sep 4 at 11:23




According to you if x=acos^4t and y=asin^4t then x^1/2+y^1/2=a^1/2.cos^2t+a^1/2.sin^2t=2a^1/2 but it given as a^1/2.
– NewBornMATH
Sep 4 at 11:23










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the equation $$sqrtx+sqrty=sqrta$$ is equivalent to $$y=x-2sqrtax+a,~~~0leq x leq a.$$



Hence, $$y'=1-fracasqrtax,~~~y''=fraca2xsqrtax.$$



Therefore, $$k=fracy'(1+y''^2)^3/2=frac12sqrtfraca(2x-2sqrtax+a)^3.$$



Notice that $$2x-2sqrtax+a=2left(sqrtx-fracsqrta2right)^2+fraca2geq fraca2$$ with the equality holding if and only if $sqrtx=dfracsqrta2$, namely $x=dfraca4$. As a result, $k$ takes its maximum value $k=dfracsqrt2a$ at $x=dfraca4.$






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  • How you can say it is maximum not minimum ?
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  • you minimize the denominator and get the maximum...
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the equation $$sqrtx+sqrty=sqrta$$ is equivalent to $$y=x-2sqrtax+a,~~~0leq x leq a.$$



Hence, $$y'=1-fracasqrtax,~~~y''=fraca2xsqrtax.$$



Therefore, $$k=fracy'(1+y''^2)^3/2=frac12sqrtfraca(2x-2sqrtax+a)^3.$$



Notice that $$2x-2sqrtax+a=2left(sqrtx-fracsqrta2right)^2+fraca2geq fraca2$$ with the equality holding if and only if $sqrtx=dfracsqrta2$, namely $x=dfraca4$. As a result, $k$ takes its maximum value $k=dfracsqrt2a$ at $x=dfraca4.$






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  • How you can say it is maximum not minimum ?
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:36










  • you minimize the denominator and get the maximum...
    – mengdie1982
    Sep 4 at 11:38












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the equation $$sqrtx+sqrty=sqrta$$ is equivalent to $$y=x-2sqrtax+a,~~~0leq x leq a.$$



Hence, $$y'=1-fracasqrtax,~~~y''=fraca2xsqrtax.$$



Therefore, $$k=fracy'(1+y''^2)^3/2=frac12sqrtfraca(2x-2sqrtax+a)^3.$$



Notice that $$2x-2sqrtax+a=2left(sqrtx-fracsqrta2right)^2+fraca2geq fraca2$$ with the equality holding if and only if $sqrtx=dfracsqrta2$, namely $x=dfraca4$. As a result, $k$ takes its maximum value $k=dfracsqrt2a$ at $x=dfraca4.$






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the equation $$sqrtx+sqrty=sqrta$$ is equivalent to $$y=x-2sqrtax+a,~~~0leq x leq a.$$



Hence, $$y'=1-fracasqrtax,~~~y''=fraca2xsqrtax.$$



Therefore, $$k=fracy'(1+y''^2)^3/2=frac12sqrtfraca(2x-2sqrtax+a)^3.$$



Notice that $$2x-2sqrtax+a=2left(sqrtx-fracsqrta2right)^2+fraca2geq fraca2$$ with the equality holding if and only if $sqrtx=dfracsqrta2$, namely $x=dfraca4$. As a result, $k$ takes its maximum value $k=dfracsqrt2a$ at $x=dfraca4.$







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  • How you can say it is maximum not minimum ?
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:36










  • you minimize the denominator and get the maximum...
    – mengdie1982
    Sep 4 at 11:38
















  • How you can say it is maximum not minimum ?
    – NewBornMATH
    Sep 4 at 11:36










  • you minimize the denominator and get the maximum...
    – mengdie1982
    Sep 4 at 11:38















How you can say it is maximum not minimum ?
– NewBornMATH
Sep 4 at 11:36




How you can say it is maximum not minimum ?
– NewBornMATH
Sep 4 at 11:36












you minimize the denominator and get the maximum...
– mengdie1982
Sep 4 at 11:38




you minimize the denominator and get the maximum...
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