Value of $Bigllfloor,lim_xto0fracsin xxBigrrfloor$

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What is the value of $Bigllfloor,lim_xto 0fracsin xxBigrrfloor$? Is it $1$ or $0$?



I was told that the answer is $0$ as $sinx$ is less than $x$ as $xrightarrow0$. Is it correct or are limits exact values?



I know that $lim_xto0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor$ will be $0$ due to the above mentioned fact.










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    $$ lfloor 1 rfloor = 1 quadtextandquad lim_xto 0fracsin xx = 1 $$
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What is the value of $Bigllfloor,lim_xto 0fracsin xxBigrrfloor$? Is it $1$ or $0$?



I was told that the answer is $0$ as $sinx$ is less than $x$ as $xrightarrow0$. Is it correct or are limits exact values?



I know that $lim_xto0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor$ will be $0$ due to the above mentioned fact.










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    $$ lfloor 1 rfloor = 1 quadtextandquad lim_xto 0fracsin xx = 1 $$
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What is the value of $Bigllfloor,lim_xto 0fracsin xxBigrrfloor$? Is it $1$ or $0$?



I was told that the answer is $0$ as $sinx$ is less than $x$ as $xrightarrow0$. Is it correct or are limits exact values?



I know that $lim_xto0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor$ will be $0$ due to the above mentioned fact.










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What is the value of $Bigllfloor,lim_xto 0fracsin xxBigrrfloor$? Is it $1$ or $0$?



I was told that the answer is $0$ as $sinx$ is less than $x$ as $xrightarrow0$. Is it correct or are limits exact values?



I know that $lim_xto0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor$ will be $0$ due to the above mentioned fact.







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    $$ lfloor 1 rfloor = 1 quadtextandquad lim_xto 0fracsin xx = 1 $$
    – Sobi
    Sep 4 at 11:51







  • 1




    Please try to make the titles of your questions more informative. For example, Why does $a<b$ imply $a+c<b+c$? is much more useful for other users than A question about inequality. From How can I ask a good question?: Make your title as descriptive as possible. In many cases one can actually phrase the title as the question, at least in such a way so as to be comprehensible to an expert reader. You can find more tips for choosing a good title here.
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  • @Shaun Will keep that in mind next time. I thought titles like this make your question appear interesting.
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 12:01












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    $$ lfloor 1 rfloor = 1 quadtextandquad lim_xto 0fracsin xx = 1 $$
    – Sobi
    Sep 4 at 11:51







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    Please try to make the titles of your questions more informative. For example, Why does $a<b$ imply $a+c<b+c$? is much more useful for other users than A question about inequality. From How can I ask a good question?: Make your title as descriptive as possible. In many cases one can actually phrase the title as the question, at least in such a way so as to be comprehensible to an expert reader. You can find more tips for choosing a good title here.
    – Shaun
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  • @Shaun Will keep that in mind next time. I thought titles like this make your question appear interesting.
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 12:01







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$$ lfloor 1 rfloor = 1 quadtextandquad lim_xto 0fracsin xx = 1 $$
– Sobi
Sep 4 at 11:51





$$ lfloor 1 rfloor = 1 quadtextandquad lim_xto 0fracsin xx = 1 $$
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Sep 4 at 11:51





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We have
$$lim_xto 0left(fracsin xxright)=lim_xto 0fraccos x1=cos (0) = 1.$$
Since $lfloor 1rfloor=1$ it follows that $leftlfloorleft(lim_xto 0left(fracsin xxright)right)rightrfloor=1$.






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  • So limits are exact values and not values tending to a number, am i right?
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 11:59











  • @nicomezi So are limits not exact values?
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 12:02










  • If they exist, yes. However, it might be that a limit does not exist (for example $lim_x to infty x$ does not exist).
    – YukiJ
    Sep 4 at 12:02










  • I missread the question. The answer is correct.
    – nicomezi
    Sep 4 at 12:03











  • use to instead of -> for tending
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Since



  • $lim_xto0(fracsin xx)=1 $

  • and for $xne 0$ sufficiently small: $0<fracsin xx<1$

we have that



$$Bigllfloor,lim_xto0fracsin xxBigrrfloor=1$$



and



$$lim_xto0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0$$






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  • Thanks, but the question is answered already.
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 13:11










  • @HarshitJoshi Yes I see that, I've only add since the second answer is wrong and my aim was to give a full picture for the difference between the two cases.
    – gimusi
    Sep 4 at 13:15










  • Why is it wrong?
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 13:17










  • @HarshitJoshi As you mentioned for any $xne 0$ we have $0<fracsin xx<1$ and therefore $$Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0 implies lim_x->0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0$$
    – gimusi
    Sep 4 at 13:20










  • Still don't understand why is it wrong?
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By the Maclaurin's expansion of $sin(x)$, we have,
$$sin(x) =sum^infty_k=0frac(-1)^k(2k+1)!x^2k+1=x-fracx^33!+fracx^55!-cdots$$



As $xto0$ we compute left hand limit,
$$lim_xto0^-fracsin(x)x =lim_xto0^-left( 1-fracx^23!+fracx^45!-cdotsright) $$
$$lim_xto0^-fracsin(x)x = 1$$
Further for right hand limit,
$$lim_xto0^+fracsin(x)x =lim_xto0^+left( 1-fracx^23!+fracx^45!-cdotsright) $$
$$lim_xto0^+fracsin(x)x = 1$$
Now,
$$Bigllfloorlim_xto0^+fracsin(x)xBigrrfloor = Bigllfloorlim_xto0^-fracsin(x)xBigrrfloor =1 $$






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    We have
    $$lim_xto 0left(fracsin xxright)=lim_xto 0fraccos x1=cos (0) = 1.$$
    Since $lfloor 1rfloor=1$ it follows that $leftlfloorleft(lim_xto 0left(fracsin xxright)right)rightrfloor=1$.






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    • So limits are exact values and not values tending to a number, am i right?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 11:59











    • @nicomezi So are limits not exact values?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 12:02










    • If they exist, yes. However, it might be that a limit does not exist (for example $lim_x to infty x$ does not exist).
      – YukiJ
      Sep 4 at 12:02










    • I missread the question. The answer is correct.
      – nicomezi
      Sep 4 at 12:03











    • use to instead of -> for tending
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      Sep 4 at 12:30














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    We have
    $$lim_xto 0left(fracsin xxright)=lim_xto 0fraccos x1=cos (0) = 1.$$
    Since $lfloor 1rfloor=1$ it follows that $leftlfloorleft(lim_xto 0left(fracsin xxright)right)rightrfloor=1$.






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    • So limits are exact values and not values tending to a number, am i right?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 11:59











    • @nicomezi So are limits not exact values?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 12:02










    • If they exist, yes. However, it might be that a limit does not exist (for example $lim_x to infty x$ does not exist).
      – YukiJ
      Sep 4 at 12:02










    • I missread the question. The answer is correct.
      – nicomezi
      Sep 4 at 12:03











    • use to instead of -> for tending
      – Deepesh Meena
      Sep 4 at 12:30












    up vote
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    We have
    $$lim_xto 0left(fracsin xxright)=lim_xto 0fraccos x1=cos (0) = 1.$$
    Since $lfloor 1rfloor=1$ it follows that $leftlfloorleft(lim_xto 0left(fracsin xxright)right)rightrfloor=1$.






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    We have
    $$lim_xto 0left(fracsin xxright)=lim_xto 0fraccos x1=cos (0) = 1.$$
    Since $lfloor 1rfloor=1$ it follows that $leftlfloorleft(lim_xto 0left(fracsin xxright)right)rightrfloor=1$.







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    • So limits are exact values and not values tending to a number, am i right?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 11:59











    • @nicomezi So are limits not exact values?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 12:02










    • If they exist, yes. However, it might be that a limit does not exist (for example $lim_x to infty x$ does not exist).
      – YukiJ
      Sep 4 at 12:02










    • I missread the question. The answer is correct.
      – nicomezi
      Sep 4 at 12:03











    • use to instead of -> for tending
      – Deepesh Meena
      Sep 4 at 12:30
















    • So limits are exact values and not values tending to a number, am i right?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 11:59











    • @nicomezi So are limits not exact values?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 12:02










    • If they exist, yes. However, it might be that a limit does not exist (for example $lim_x to infty x$ does not exist).
      – YukiJ
      Sep 4 at 12:02










    • I missread the question. The answer is correct.
      – nicomezi
      Sep 4 at 12:03











    • use to instead of -> for tending
      – Deepesh Meena
      Sep 4 at 12:30















    So limits are exact values and not values tending to a number, am i right?
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 11:59





    So limits are exact values and not values tending to a number, am i right?
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 11:59













    @nicomezi So are limits not exact values?
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 12:02




    @nicomezi So are limits not exact values?
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 12:02












    If they exist, yes. However, it might be that a limit does not exist (for example $lim_x to infty x$ does not exist).
    – YukiJ
    Sep 4 at 12:02




    If they exist, yes. However, it might be that a limit does not exist (for example $lim_x to infty x$ does not exist).
    – YukiJ
    Sep 4 at 12:02












    I missread the question. The answer is correct.
    – nicomezi
    Sep 4 at 12:03





    I missread the question. The answer is correct.
    – nicomezi
    Sep 4 at 12:03













    use to instead of -> for tending
    – Deepesh Meena
    Sep 4 at 12:30




    use to instead of -> for tending
    – Deepesh Meena
    Sep 4 at 12:30










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    Since



    • $lim_xto0(fracsin xx)=1 $

    • and for $xne 0$ sufficiently small: $0<fracsin xx<1$

    we have that



    $$Bigllfloor,lim_xto0fracsin xxBigrrfloor=1$$



    and



    $$lim_xto0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0$$






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    • Thanks, but the question is answered already.
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 13:11










    • @HarshitJoshi Yes I see that, I've only add since the second answer is wrong and my aim was to give a full picture for the difference between the two cases.
      – gimusi
      Sep 4 at 13:15










    • Why is it wrong?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 13:17










    • @HarshitJoshi As you mentioned for any $xne 0$ we have $0<fracsin xx<1$ and therefore $$Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0 implies lim_x->0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0$$
      – gimusi
      Sep 4 at 13:20










    • Still don't understand why is it wrong?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 13:22














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    Since



    • $lim_xto0(fracsin xx)=1 $

    • and for $xne 0$ sufficiently small: $0<fracsin xx<1$

    we have that



    $$Bigllfloor,lim_xto0fracsin xxBigrrfloor=1$$



    and



    $$lim_xto0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0$$






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    • Thanks, but the question is answered already.
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 13:11










    • @HarshitJoshi Yes I see that, I've only add since the second answer is wrong and my aim was to give a full picture for the difference between the two cases.
      – gimusi
      Sep 4 at 13:15










    • Why is it wrong?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 13:17










    • @HarshitJoshi As you mentioned for any $xne 0$ we have $0<fracsin xx<1$ and therefore $$Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0 implies lim_x->0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0$$
      – gimusi
      Sep 4 at 13:20










    • Still don't understand why is it wrong?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 13:22












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    Since



    • $lim_xto0(fracsin xx)=1 $

    • and for $xne 0$ sufficiently small: $0<fracsin xx<1$

    we have that



    $$Bigllfloor,lim_xto0fracsin xxBigrrfloor=1$$



    and



    $$lim_xto0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0$$






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    Since



    • $lim_xto0(fracsin xx)=1 $

    • and for $xne 0$ sufficiently small: $0<fracsin xx<1$

    we have that



    $$Bigllfloor,lim_xto0fracsin xxBigrrfloor=1$$



    and



    $$lim_xto0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0$$







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    • Thanks, but the question is answered already.
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 13:11










    • @HarshitJoshi Yes I see that, I've only add since the second answer is wrong and my aim was to give a full picture for the difference between the two cases.
      – gimusi
      Sep 4 at 13:15










    • Why is it wrong?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 13:17










    • @HarshitJoshi As you mentioned for any $xne 0$ we have $0<fracsin xx<1$ and therefore $$Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0 implies lim_x->0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0$$
      – gimusi
      Sep 4 at 13:20










    • Still don't understand why is it wrong?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 13:22
















    • Thanks, but the question is answered already.
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 13:11










    • @HarshitJoshi Yes I see that, I've only add since the second answer is wrong and my aim was to give a full picture for the difference between the two cases.
      – gimusi
      Sep 4 at 13:15










    • Why is it wrong?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 13:17










    • @HarshitJoshi As you mentioned for any $xne 0$ we have $0<fracsin xx<1$ and therefore $$Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0 implies lim_x->0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0$$
      – gimusi
      Sep 4 at 13:20










    • Still don't understand why is it wrong?
      – Harshit Joshi
      Sep 4 at 13:22















    Thanks, but the question is answered already.
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 13:11




    Thanks, but the question is answered already.
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 13:11












    @HarshitJoshi Yes I see that, I've only add since the second answer is wrong and my aim was to give a full picture for the difference between the two cases.
    – gimusi
    Sep 4 at 13:15




    @HarshitJoshi Yes I see that, I've only add since the second answer is wrong and my aim was to give a full picture for the difference between the two cases.
    – gimusi
    Sep 4 at 13:15












    Why is it wrong?
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 13:17




    Why is it wrong?
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 13:17












    @HarshitJoshi As you mentioned for any $xne 0$ we have $0<fracsin xx<1$ and therefore $$Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0 implies lim_x->0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0$$
    – gimusi
    Sep 4 at 13:20




    @HarshitJoshi As you mentioned for any $xne 0$ we have $0<fracsin xx<1$ and therefore $$Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0 implies lim_x->0Bigllfloorfracsin xxBigrrfloor=0$$
    – gimusi
    Sep 4 at 13:20












    Still don't understand why is it wrong?
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 13:22




    Still don't understand why is it wrong?
    – Harshit Joshi
    Sep 4 at 13:22










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    By the Maclaurin's expansion of $sin(x)$, we have,
    $$sin(x) =sum^infty_k=0frac(-1)^k(2k+1)!x^2k+1=x-fracx^33!+fracx^55!-cdots$$



    As $xto0$ we compute left hand limit,
    $$lim_xto0^-fracsin(x)x =lim_xto0^-left( 1-fracx^23!+fracx^45!-cdotsright) $$
    $$lim_xto0^-fracsin(x)x = 1$$
    Further for right hand limit,
    $$lim_xto0^+fracsin(x)x =lim_xto0^+left( 1-fracx^23!+fracx^45!-cdotsright) $$
    $$lim_xto0^+fracsin(x)x = 1$$
    Now,
    $$Bigllfloorlim_xto0^+fracsin(x)xBigrrfloor = Bigllfloorlim_xto0^-fracsin(x)xBigrrfloor =1 $$






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      By the Maclaurin's expansion of $sin(x)$, we have,
      $$sin(x) =sum^infty_k=0frac(-1)^k(2k+1)!x^2k+1=x-fracx^33!+fracx^55!-cdots$$



      As $xto0$ we compute left hand limit,
      $$lim_xto0^-fracsin(x)x =lim_xto0^-left( 1-fracx^23!+fracx^45!-cdotsright) $$
      $$lim_xto0^-fracsin(x)x = 1$$
      Further for right hand limit,
      $$lim_xto0^+fracsin(x)x =lim_xto0^+left( 1-fracx^23!+fracx^45!-cdotsright) $$
      $$lim_xto0^+fracsin(x)x = 1$$
      Now,
      $$Bigllfloorlim_xto0^+fracsin(x)xBigrrfloor = Bigllfloorlim_xto0^-fracsin(x)xBigrrfloor =1 $$






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        By the Maclaurin's expansion of $sin(x)$, we have,
        $$sin(x) =sum^infty_k=0frac(-1)^k(2k+1)!x^2k+1=x-fracx^33!+fracx^55!-cdots$$



        As $xto0$ we compute left hand limit,
        $$lim_xto0^-fracsin(x)x =lim_xto0^-left( 1-fracx^23!+fracx^45!-cdotsright) $$
        $$lim_xto0^-fracsin(x)x = 1$$
        Further for right hand limit,
        $$lim_xto0^+fracsin(x)x =lim_xto0^+left( 1-fracx^23!+fracx^45!-cdotsright) $$
        $$lim_xto0^+fracsin(x)x = 1$$
        Now,
        $$Bigllfloorlim_xto0^+fracsin(x)xBigrrfloor = Bigllfloorlim_xto0^-fracsin(x)xBigrrfloor =1 $$






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        By the Maclaurin's expansion of $sin(x)$, we have,
        $$sin(x) =sum^infty_k=0frac(-1)^k(2k+1)!x^2k+1=x-fracx^33!+fracx^55!-cdots$$



        As $xto0$ we compute left hand limit,
        $$lim_xto0^-fracsin(x)x =lim_xto0^-left( 1-fracx^23!+fracx^45!-cdotsright) $$
        $$lim_xto0^-fracsin(x)x = 1$$
        Further for right hand limit,
        $$lim_xto0^+fracsin(x)x =lim_xto0^+left( 1-fracx^23!+fracx^45!-cdotsright) $$
        $$lim_xto0^+fracsin(x)x = 1$$
        Now,
        $$Bigllfloorlim_xto0^+fracsin(x)xBigrrfloor = Bigllfloorlim_xto0^-fracsin(x)xBigrrfloor =1 $$







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