Definition of $lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n = e$

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I have the following limit



$$lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n$$



It leads to an indeterminate $[1^infty]$, this means I should look into the limit of $e$. I rework the function a little bit:



$$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(fracn+1-1n+1right)^n=left(1-frac1n+1right)^n$$



This is similar but not identical to



$$left(1+frac1nright)^nrightarrow e$$



The major difference I notice is the $n+1$ in the denominator. Is the limit considered to approach $e^-1$ because for $nrightarrowinfty$ we have $n+1sim n$?










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  • Well, you could multiply (and divide) the equation with $(1-1/(n+1))$. Then you can use the known limit for the first part and for the second part you just use that the limit is given by $1$.
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I have the following limit



$$lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n$$



It leads to an indeterminate $[1^infty]$, this means I should look into the limit of $e$. I rework the function a little bit:



$$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(fracn+1-1n+1right)^n=left(1-frac1n+1right)^n$$



This is similar but not identical to



$$left(1+frac1nright)^nrightarrow e$$



The major difference I notice is the $n+1$ in the denominator. Is the limit considered to approach $e^-1$ because for $nrightarrowinfty$ we have $n+1sim n$?










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  • Well, you could multiply (and divide) the equation with $(1-1/(n+1))$. Then you can use the known limit for the first part and for the second part you just use that the limit is given by $1$.
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I have the following limit



$$lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n$$



It leads to an indeterminate $[1^infty]$, this means I should look into the limit of $e$. I rework the function a little bit:



$$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(fracn+1-1n+1right)^n=left(1-frac1n+1right)^n$$



This is similar but not identical to



$$left(1+frac1nright)^nrightarrow e$$



The major difference I notice is the $n+1$ in the denominator. Is the limit considered to approach $e^-1$ because for $nrightarrowinfty$ we have $n+1sim n$?










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I have the following limit



$$lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n$$



It leads to an indeterminate $[1^infty]$, this means I should look into the limit of $e$. I rework the function a little bit:



$$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(fracn+1-1n+1right)^n=left(1-frac1n+1right)^n$$



This is similar but not identical to



$$left(1+frac1nright)^nrightarrow e$$



The major difference I notice is the $n+1$ in the denominator. Is the limit considered to approach $e^-1$ because for $nrightarrowinfty$ we have $n+1sim n$?







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  • Well, you could multiply (and divide) the equation with $(1-1/(n+1))$. Then you can use the known limit for the first part and for the second part you just use that the limit is given by $1$.
    – Stan Tendijck
    Sep 4 at 7:58
















  • Well, you could multiply (and divide) the equation with $(1-1/(n+1))$. Then you can use the known limit for the first part and for the second part you just use that the limit is given by $1$.
    – Stan Tendijck
    Sep 4 at 7:58















Well, you could multiply (and divide) the equation with $(1-1/(n+1))$. Then you can use the known limit for the first part and for the second part you just use that the limit is given by $1$.
– Stan Tendijck
Sep 4 at 7:58




Well, you could multiply (and divide) the equation with $(1-1/(n+1))$. Then you can use the known limit for the first part and for the second part you just use that the limit is given by $1$.
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$$left(frac nn+1right)^n=left(1+frac1nright)^-n$$ and by continuity of the reciprocal function, the limit of the reciprocal is the reciprocal of the limit.




This shows that in general $n+1sim n$, unless there is some cancellation. (More specifically, $n+1-nnsim n-n$.)






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    You can write $$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(left(1-frac1n+1right)^n+1right)^fracnn+1=a_n^fracnn+1$$where $lim_ntoinftya_n=e^-1$ and $lim_ntoinftyfracnn+1=1$.



    Then: $$lim_ntoinftya_n^fracnn+1=left(e^-1right)^1=e^-1$$






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    Note that:
    $$lim_ntoinftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=lim_nto-inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=lim_nto+inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=e.$$
    So, one way:
    $$lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n=lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(frac1fracn+1nright)^n=\
    lim_nrightarrow+inftyfrac1left(1+frac1nright)^n=frac1lim_limitsnrightarrow+inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=frac1e.$$
    or the other way:
    $$lim_nto+inftyleft(1-frac1n+1right)^n=lim_nto+inftyleft(left[1+frac1-(n+1)right]^-(n+1)right)^fracn-(n+1)=\
    e^lim_limitsnto+infty fracn-(n+1)=e^-1=frac1e.$$






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      $$L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n$$
      $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftylog left(fracnn+1right)^n$$
      $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftynlog left(fracnn+1right)$$
      $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyfraclog left(fracnn+1right)frac1n$$



      Apply LHopital's rule to the RHS



      $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyfracfrac1n^2+nfrac-1n^2$$
      $$log L=-1lim_nrightarrow+inftyfracn^2n^2+n=-1$$



      $$L=e^-1$$






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        Recall that $forall ain mathbbR$



        $$left(1+frac1nright)^nrightarrow eimplies left(1+fracanright)^nrightarrow e^a$$



        therefore from your step



        $$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(fracn+1-1n+1right)^n=left(1-frac1n+1right)^n=left(1+frac-1n+1right)^n=fracleft(1+frac-1n+1right)^n+1left(1+frac-1n+1right)to frace^-11=e^-1$$






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          Remark that



          $$left(frac nn+1right)^n=left(1+frac1nright)^-n$$ and by continuity of the reciprocal function, the limit of the reciprocal is the reciprocal of the limit.




          This shows that in general $n+1sim n$, unless there is some cancellation. (More specifically, $n+1-nnsim n-n$.)






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            Remark that



            $$left(frac nn+1right)^n=left(1+frac1nright)^-n$$ and by continuity of the reciprocal function, the limit of the reciprocal is the reciprocal of the limit.




            This shows that in general $n+1sim n$, unless there is some cancellation. (More specifically, $n+1-nnsim n-n$.)






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              Remark that



              $$left(frac nn+1right)^n=left(1+frac1nright)^-n$$ and by continuity of the reciprocal function, the limit of the reciprocal is the reciprocal of the limit.




              This shows that in general $n+1sim n$, unless there is some cancellation. (More specifically, $n+1-nnsim n-n$.)






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              Remark that



              $$left(frac nn+1right)^n=left(1+frac1nright)^-n$$ and by continuity of the reciprocal function, the limit of the reciprocal is the reciprocal of the limit.




              This shows that in general $n+1sim n$, unless there is some cancellation. (More specifically, $n+1-nnsim n-n$.)







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                  You can write $$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(left(1-frac1n+1right)^n+1right)^fracnn+1=a_n^fracnn+1$$where $lim_ntoinftya_n=e^-1$ and $lim_ntoinftyfracnn+1=1$.



                  Then: $$lim_ntoinftya_n^fracnn+1=left(e^-1right)^1=e^-1$$






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                  You can write $$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(left(1-frac1n+1right)^n+1right)^fracnn+1=a_n^fracnn+1$$where $lim_ntoinftya_n=e^-1$ and $lim_ntoinftyfracnn+1=1$.



                  Then: $$lim_ntoinftya_n^fracnn+1=left(e^-1right)^1=e^-1$$






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                  You can write $$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(left(1-frac1n+1right)^n+1right)^fracnn+1=a_n^fracnn+1$$where $lim_ntoinftya_n=e^-1$ and $lim_ntoinftyfracnn+1=1$.



                  Then: $$lim_ntoinftya_n^fracnn+1=left(e^-1right)^1=e^-1$$






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                  You can write $$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(left(1-frac1n+1right)^n+1right)^fracnn+1=a_n^fracnn+1$$where $lim_ntoinftya_n=e^-1$ and $lim_ntoinftyfracnn+1=1$.



                  Then: $$lim_ntoinftya_n^fracnn+1=left(e^-1right)^1=e^-1$$







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                  Note that:
                  $$lim_ntoinftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=lim_nto-inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=lim_nto+inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=e.$$
                  So, one way:
                  $$lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n=lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(frac1fracn+1nright)^n=\
                  lim_nrightarrow+inftyfrac1left(1+frac1nright)^n=frac1lim_limitsnrightarrow+inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=frac1e.$$
                  or the other way:
                  $$lim_nto+inftyleft(1-frac1n+1right)^n=lim_nto+inftyleft(left[1+frac1-(n+1)right]^-(n+1)right)^fracn-(n+1)=\
                  e^lim_limitsnto+infty fracn-(n+1)=e^-1=frac1e.$$






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                    Note that:
                    $$lim_ntoinftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=lim_nto-inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=lim_nto+inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=e.$$
                    So, one way:
                    $$lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n=lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(frac1fracn+1nright)^n=\
                    lim_nrightarrow+inftyfrac1left(1+frac1nright)^n=frac1lim_limitsnrightarrow+inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=frac1e.$$
                    or the other way:
                    $$lim_nto+inftyleft(1-frac1n+1right)^n=lim_nto+inftyleft(left[1+frac1-(n+1)right]^-(n+1)right)^fracn-(n+1)=\
                    e^lim_limitsnto+infty fracn-(n+1)=e^-1=frac1e.$$






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                      Note that:
                      $$lim_ntoinftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=lim_nto-inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=lim_nto+inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=e.$$
                      So, one way:
                      $$lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n=lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(frac1fracn+1nright)^n=\
                      lim_nrightarrow+inftyfrac1left(1+frac1nright)^n=frac1lim_limitsnrightarrow+inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=frac1e.$$
                      or the other way:
                      $$lim_nto+inftyleft(1-frac1n+1right)^n=lim_nto+inftyleft(left[1+frac1-(n+1)right]^-(n+1)right)^fracn-(n+1)=\
                      e^lim_limitsnto+infty fracn-(n+1)=e^-1=frac1e.$$






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                      Note that:
                      $$lim_ntoinftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=lim_nto-inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=lim_nto+inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=e.$$
                      So, one way:
                      $$lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n=lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(frac1fracn+1nright)^n=\
                      lim_nrightarrow+inftyfrac1left(1+frac1nright)^n=frac1lim_limitsnrightarrow+inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=frac1e.$$
                      or the other way:
                      $$lim_nto+inftyleft(1-frac1n+1right)^n=lim_nto+inftyleft(left[1+frac1-(n+1)right]^-(n+1)right)^fracn-(n+1)=\
                      e^lim_limitsnto+infty fracn-(n+1)=e^-1=frac1e.$$







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                          $$L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n$$
                          $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftylog left(fracnn+1right)^n$$
                          $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftynlog left(fracnn+1right)$$
                          $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyfraclog left(fracnn+1right)frac1n$$



                          Apply LHopital's rule to the RHS



                          $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyfracfrac1n^2+nfrac-1n^2$$
                          $$log L=-1lim_nrightarrow+inftyfracn^2n^2+n=-1$$



                          $$L=e^-1$$






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                            $$L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n$$
                            $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftylog left(fracnn+1right)^n$$
                            $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftynlog left(fracnn+1right)$$
                            $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyfraclog left(fracnn+1right)frac1n$$



                            Apply LHopital's rule to the RHS



                            $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyfracfrac1n^2+nfrac-1n^2$$
                            $$log L=-1lim_nrightarrow+inftyfracn^2n^2+n=-1$$



                            $$L=e^-1$$






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                              $$L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n$$
                              $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftylog left(fracnn+1right)^n$$
                              $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftynlog left(fracnn+1right)$$
                              $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyfraclog left(fracnn+1right)frac1n$$



                              Apply LHopital's rule to the RHS



                              $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyfracfrac1n^2+nfrac-1n^2$$
                              $$log L=-1lim_nrightarrow+inftyfracn^2n^2+n=-1$$



                              $$L=e^-1$$






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                              $$L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyleft(fracnn+1right)^n$$
                              $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftylog left(fracnn+1right)^n$$
                              $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftynlog left(fracnn+1right)$$
                              $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyfraclog left(fracnn+1right)frac1n$$



                              Apply LHopital's rule to the RHS



                              $$log L=lim_nrightarrow+inftyfracfrac1n^2+nfrac-1n^2$$
                              $$log L=-1lim_nrightarrow+inftyfracn^2n^2+n=-1$$



                              $$L=e^-1$$







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                                  Recall that $forall ain mathbbR$



                                  $$left(1+frac1nright)^nrightarrow eimplies left(1+fracanright)^nrightarrow e^a$$



                                  therefore from your step



                                  $$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(fracn+1-1n+1right)^n=left(1-frac1n+1right)^n=left(1+frac-1n+1right)^n=fracleft(1+frac-1n+1right)^n+1left(1+frac-1n+1right)to frace^-11=e^-1$$






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                                    Recall that $forall ain mathbbR$



                                    $$left(1+frac1nright)^nrightarrow eimplies left(1+fracanright)^nrightarrow e^a$$



                                    therefore from your step



                                    $$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(fracn+1-1n+1right)^n=left(1-frac1n+1right)^n=left(1+frac-1n+1right)^n=fracleft(1+frac-1n+1right)^n+1left(1+frac-1n+1right)to frace^-11=e^-1$$






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                                      Recall that $forall ain mathbbR$



                                      $$left(1+frac1nright)^nrightarrow eimplies left(1+fracanright)^nrightarrow e^a$$



                                      therefore from your step



                                      $$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(fracn+1-1n+1right)^n=left(1-frac1n+1right)^n=left(1+frac-1n+1right)^n=fracleft(1+frac-1n+1right)^n+1left(1+frac-1n+1right)to frace^-11=e^-1$$






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                                      Recall that $forall ain mathbbR$



                                      $$left(1+frac1nright)^nrightarrow eimplies left(1+fracanright)^nrightarrow e^a$$



                                      therefore from your step



                                      $$left(fracnn+1right)^n=left(fracn+1-1n+1right)^n=left(1-frac1n+1right)^n=left(1+frac-1n+1right)^n=fracleft(1+frac-1n+1right)^n+1left(1+frac-1n+1right)to frace^-11=e^-1$$







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