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How to determine the coefficient signs for the solution of a linear diophantine equation?




Take $24x + 69y = 33$ for example.



I know the solution is $x = 33 − 23k , y = −11 + 8k$, and I understand fully how to arrive at the values, but how do I determine the sign on the coefficients?



In other words, why is $23k$ negative, and why is $8k$ positive?



Through all the examples I can find, there seems to be no pattern.







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    All that matters here is that these two signs are opposite: $33+23k$ and $-11-8k$ work just as well.
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  • check this out: brilliant.org/wiki/linear-diophantine-equations-one-equation/…
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How to determine the coefficient signs for the solution of a linear diophantine equation?




Take $24x + 69y = 33$ for example.



I know the solution is $x = 33 − 23k , y = −11 + 8k$, and I understand fully how to arrive at the values, but how do I determine the sign on the coefficients?



In other words, why is $23k$ negative, and why is $8k$ positive?



Through all the examples I can find, there seems to be no pattern.







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    All that matters here is that these two signs are opposite: $33+23k$ and $-11-8k$ work just as well.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Aug 17 at 4:10










  • check this out: brilliant.org/wiki/linear-diophantine-equations-one-equation/…
    – farruhota
    Aug 17 at 5:16












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How to determine the coefficient signs for the solution of a linear diophantine equation?




Take $24x + 69y = 33$ for example.



I know the solution is $x = 33 − 23k , y = −11 + 8k$, and I understand fully how to arrive at the values, but how do I determine the sign on the coefficients?



In other words, why is $23k$ negative, and why is $8k$ positive?



Through all the examples I can find, there seems to be no pattern.







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How to determine the coefficient signs for the solution of a linear diophantine equation?




Take $24x + 69y = 33$ for example.



I know the solution is $x = 33 − 23k , y = −11 + 8k$, and I understand fully how to arrive at the values, but how do I determine the sign on the coefficients?



In other words, why is $23k$ negative, and why is $8k$ positive?



Through all the examples I can find, there seems to be no pattern.









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    All that matters here is that these two signs are opposite: $33+23k$ and $-11-8k$ work just as well.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Aug 17 at 4:10










  • check this out: brilliant.org/wiki/linear-diophantine-equations-one-equation/…
    – farruhota
    Aug 17 at 5:16












  • 2




    All that matters here is that these two signs are opposite: $33+23k$ and $-11-8k$ work just as well.
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Aug 17 at 4:10










  • check this out: brilliant.org/wiki/linear-diophantine-equations-one-equation/…
    – farruhota
    Aug 17 at 5:16







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All that matters here is that these two signs are opposite: $33+23k$ and $-11-8k$ work just as well.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Aug 17 at 4:10




All that matters here is that these two signs are opposite: $33+23k$ and $-11-8k$ work just as well.
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Aug 17 at 4:10












check this out: brilliant.org/wiki/linear-diophantine-equations-one-equation/…
– farruhota
Aug 17 at 5:16




check this out: brilliant.org/wiki/linear-diophantine-equations-one-equation/…
– farruhota
Aug 17 at 5:16










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You want to parameterize the solutions to the equation$$24x + 69y = 33$$



You know that $(x_0, y_0) = (33, -11)$ is a solution.



beginalign
24(phantom3x) + 69(phantom-1y) &= 33 \
24(33) + 69(-11) &= 33 &text(subtract) \
hline
24(x-33) + 69(y+11) &= 0
endalign



Since $24$ divides $24(x-33)$, then it must also divide $69(y+11)$.



Since $24$ and $69$ are relatively prime to each other, then we must have $24$ divides
$y+11$. So, for some integer $t, y+11 = 24t$. Hence $y=24t-11$. We can now solve for $x$.



beginalign
24(x-33) + 69(y+11) &= 0 \
24(x-33) + 69(24t-11+11) &= 0 \
24(x-33) + 69(24t) &= 0 \
24(x-33) &= -69(24t) &textNote the change in sign. \
x-33 &= -69t \
x &= -69t + 33
endalign



And you get
beginalign
x &= -69t + 33 \
y &= 24t - 11
endalign



If you let $t=-u$, you get
beginalign
x &= 69u + 33 \
y &= -24u - 11
endalign






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    You want to parameterize the solutions to the equation$$24x + 69y = 33$$



    You know that $(x_0, y_0) = (33, -11)$ is a solution.



    beginalign
    24(phantom3x) + 69(phantom-1y) &= 33 \
    24(33) + 69(-11) &= 33 &text(subtract) \
    hline
    24(x-33) + 69(y+11) &= 0
    endalign



    Since $24$ divides $24(x-33)$, then it must also divide $69(y+11)$.



    Since $24$ and $69$ are relatively prime to each other, then we must have $24$ divides
    $y+11$. So, for some integer $t, y+11 = 24t$. Hence $y=24t-11$. We can now solve for $x$.



    beginalign
    24(x-33) + 69(y+11) &= 0 \
    24(x-33) + 69(24t-11+11) &= 0 \
    24(x-33) + 69(24t) &= 0 \
    24(x-33) &= -69(24t) &textNote the change in sign. \
    x-33 &= -69t \
    x &= -69t + 33
    endalign



    And you get
    beginalign
    x &= -69t + 33 \
    y &= 24t - 11
    endalign



    If you let $t=-u$, you get
    beginalign
    x &= 69u + 33 \
    y &= -24u - 11
    endalign






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      You want to parameterize the solutions to the equation$$24x + 69y = 33$$



      You know that $(x_0, y_0) = (33, -11)$ is a solution.



      beginalign
      24(phantom3x) + 69(phantom-1y) &= 33 \
      24(33) + 69(-11) &= 33 &text(subtract) \
      hline
      24(x-33) + 69(y+11) &= 0
      endalign



      Since $24$ divides $24(x-33)$, then it must also divide $69(y+11)$.



      Since $24$ and $69$ are relatively prime to each other, then we must have $24$ divides
      $y+11$. So, for some integer $t, y+11 = 24t$. Hence $y=24t-11$. We can now solve for $x$.



      beginalign
      24(x-33) + 69(y+11) &= 0 \
      24(x-33) + 69(24t-11+11) &= 0 \
      24(x-33) + 69(24t) &= 0 \
      24(x-33) &= -69(24t) &textNote the change in sign. \
      x-33 &= -69t \
      x &= -69t + 33
      endalign



      And you get
      beginalign
      x &= -69t + 33 \
      y &= 24t - 11
      endalign



      If you let $t=-u$, you get
      beginalign
      x &= 69u + 33 \
      y &= -24u - 11
      endalign






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        You want to parameterize the solutions to the equation$$24x + 69y = 33$$



        You know that $(x_0, y_0) = (33, -11)$ is a solution.



        beginalign
        24(phantom3x) + 69(phantom-1y) &= 33 \
        24(33) + 69(-11) &= 33 &text(subtract) \
        hline
        24(x-33) + 69(y+11) &= 0
        endalign



        Since $24$ divides $24(x-33)$, then it must also divide $69(y+11)$.



        Since $24$ and $69$ are relatively prime to each other, then we must have $24$ divides
        $y+11$. So, for some integer $t, y+11 = 24t$. Hence $y=24t-11$. We can now solve for $x$.



        beginalign
        24(x-33) + 69(y+11) &= 0 \
        24(x-33) + 69(24t-11+11) &= 0 \
        24(x-33) + 69(24t) &= 0 \
        24(x-33) &= -69(24t) &textNote the change in sign. \
        x-33 &= -69t \
        x &= -69t + 33
        endalign



        And you get
        beginalign
        x &= -69t + 33 \
        y &= 24t - 11
        endalign



        If you let $t=-u$, you get
        beginalign
        x &= 69u + 33 \
        y &= -24u - 11
        endalign






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        You want to parameterize the solutions to the equation$$24x + 69y = 33$$



        You know that $(x_0, y_0) = (33, -11)$ is a solution.



        beginalign
        24(phantom3x) + 69(phantom-1y) &= 33 \
        24(33) + 69(-11) &= 33 &text(subtract) \
        hline
        24(x-33) + 69(y+11) &= 0
        endalign



        Since $24$ divides $24(x-33)$, then it must also divide $69(y+11)$.



        Since $24$ and $69$ are relatively prime to each other, then we must have $24$ divides
        $y+11$. So, for some integer $t, y+11 = 24t$. Hence $y=24t-11$. We can now solve for $x$.



        beginalign
        24(x-33) + 69(y+11) &= 0 \
        24(x-33) + 69(24t-11+11) &= 0 \
        24(x-33) + 69(24t) &= 0 \
        24(x-33) &= -69(24t) &textNote the change in sign. \
        x-33 &= -69t \
        x &= -69t + 33
        endalign



        And you get
        beginalign
        x &= -69t + 33 \
        y &= 24t - 11
        endalign



        If you let $t=-u$, you get
        beginalign
        x &= 69u + 33 \
        y &= -24u - 11
        endalign







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