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$P(x)$ is a polynomial function,



$$P(x)-P'(x) = 2x^2-8x$$



Determine the $P(1)$




I've tried to solve the polynomial for $0$



$$P(0) = 2x^2-8x$$



Here we get



$$x = 4 , 0$$



However, I believe that I've gone wrong so far.







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    Have you copied the problem exactly as it was written? As written, it is not possible to solve (there is not enough information to determine $P(1)$). In any case, you seem very badly confused about what the problem means. I would suggest you try reading it carefully and make sure you understand it before anything else.
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$P(x)$ is a polynomial function,



$$P(x)-P'(x) = 2x^2-8x$$



Determine the $P(1)$




I've tried to solve the polynomial for $0$



$$P(0) = 2x^2-8x$$



Here we get



$$x = 4 , 0$$



However, I believe that I've gone wrong so far.







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    Have you copied the problem exactly as it was written? As written, it is not possible to solve (there is not enough information to determine $P(1)$). In any case, you seem very badly confused about what the problem means. I would suggest you try reading it carefully and make sure you understand it before anything else.
    – Eric Wofsey
    Aug 9 at 20:33











  • How to solve this problem using differential equations?
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$P(x)$ is a polynomial function,



$$P(x)-P'(x) = 2x^2-8x$$



Determine the $P(1)$




I've tried to solve the polynomial for $0$



$$P(0) = 2x^2-8x$$



Here we get



$$x = 4 , 0$$



However, I believe that I've gone wrong so far.







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$P(x)$ is a polynomial function,



$$P(x)-P'(x) = 2x^2-8x$$



Determine the $P(1)$




I've tried to solve the polynomial for $0$



$$P(0) = 2x^2-8x$$



Here we get



$$x = 4 , 0$$



However, I believe that I've gone wrong so far.









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  • 3




    Have you copied the problem exactly as it was written? As written, it is not possible to solve (there is not enough information to determine $P(1)$). In any case, you seem very badly confused about what the problem means. I would suggest you try reading it carefully and make sure you understand it before anything else.
    – Eric Wofsey
    Aug 9 at 20:33











  • How to solve this problem using differential equations?
    – Hamilton
    Aug 9 at 20:38












  • 3




    Have you copied the problem exactly as it was written? As written, it is not possible to solve (there is not enough information to determine $P(1)$). In any case, you seem very badly confused about what the problem means. I would suggest you try reading it carefully and make sure you understand it before anything else.
    – Eric Wofsey
    Aug 9 at 20:33











  • How to solve this problem using differential equations?
    – Hamilton
    Aug 9 at 20:38







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Have you copied the problem exactly as it was written? As written, it is not possible to solve (there is not enough information to determine $P(1)$). In any case, you seem very badly confused about what the problem means. I would suggest you try reading it carefully and make sure you understand it before anything else.
– Eric Wofsey
Aug 9 at 20:33





Have you copied the problem exactly as it was written? As written, it is not possible to solve (there is not enough information to determine $P(1)$). In any case, you seem very badly confused about what the problem means. I would suggest you try reading it carefully and make sure you understand it before anything else.
– Eric Wofsey
Aug 9 at 20:33













How to solve this problem using differential equations?
– Hamilton
Aug 9 at 20:38




How to solve this problem using differential equations?
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A locally nilpotent linear operator on a vector space $V$ (not necessarily finite-dimensional) over a field $mathbbK$ is a linear operator $N:Vto V$ such that, for each $vin V$, there exists a nonnegative integer $r_v$ depending on $v$ such that
$$N^r_v(v)=0_V,.$$ Here, $N^0:=textid_V$. For such a linear operator $N$, the linear operator $textid_V-N:Vto V$ is bijective. To show this, we exhibit the inverse of $textid_V-N$ as $i(N):=sumlimits_r=0^infty,N^r$. This linear operator $i(N):Vto V$ is well defined because $N$ is locally nilpotent. It is clear that
$$left(textid_V-Nright),i(N)=textid_V=i(N),left(textid_V-Nright),.$$



Now, the derivative operator $D$, $Df:=f'$, is a locally nilpotent operator on the vector space $mathbbK[X]$ of polynomials in variable $X$ over an arbitrary field $mathbbK$, namely, for each $f(x)inmathbbK[x]$,
$$D^deg(f)+1fequiv0text for fnotequiv0,,text and D^0fequiv 0text for fequiv0,.$$
By convention, $D^0$ denotes the identity operator $I$.




Now, we go back to the problem. Observe that $$big((I-D),Pbig)(X)=P(X)-P'(X)=2X^2-8X,.$$ By the paragraph above, $$beginalignP(X)&=(I-D)^-1,left(2X^2-8Xright)=sum_r=0^infty,D^rleft(2X^2-8Xright)\ &=(2X^2-8X)+(4X-8)+4=2X^2-4X-4,.endalign$$ That is, $P(1)=-6$.







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    Let $P(x)$ be any n degree polynomial
    $$P(x) = a_0 + a_1 x + a_2x^2 + ... + a_nx^n$$



    $$a_0+a_1x+a_2x^2 + ... a_nx^n - (a_1+2a_2x + ...na_nx^n-1 = 2x^2 - 8x$$



    $$(a_0-a_1) + (a_1-2a_2)x + (a_2 - 3a_3)x^2 + .... = 2x^2 - 8x$$



    Now the r.h.s and l.h.s are two polynomials that are equal for all values of $x$. Therefore they must be equivalent. You should be able to proceed now..



    Cheers!






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      as mentioned in the comment by @mfl that the polynomial must have degree two because if we take P as degree n polynomial then P-P' also has degree n thus n=2 because the right side polynomial is of degree 2.



      you can solve it by taking a degree two polynomial $P(x)=ax^2+bx+c$



      I got $b=c$ and $a=2$ and $2a-b=8$



      thus $$P(x)=2x^2-4x-4$$
      thus $$P(1)=2-4-4=-6$$
      $hspace20pt$



      Here is method two if want to solve this by differential equations



      this is of the form $$fracdydx+P(x)y=Q(x)$$



      $$fracdydx-y=8x-2x^2$$



      $$P(x)=-1 space and space Q(x)=8x-2x^2$$
      in this type of differential equations, we multiply the equation by integrating factor



      integrating factor $$R(x)=e^int P(x) dx$$



      thus $$R(x)=e^int -1 dx=e^-x$$



      multiply by $R(x)$
      $$e^-xfracdydx-e^-xy=e^-x(8x-2x^2)$$
      $$fracd(e^-xy)dx=e^-x(8x-2x^2)$$
      $$e^-xy=int e^-x(8x-2x^2) dx $$



      apply integration by part two times on the right side you will get



      $$e^-xy= e^-x(2x^2-4x-4) + C$$



      thus $$y= 2x^2-4x-4+ C *e^x$$
      since P is a polynomial C must be zero






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        Note that $P$ must have degree two.
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      • @taritgoswami No. If $P$ has degree $n$ then $P'$ has degree $n-1.$ Thus $P-P'$ has degree $n.$ So we have $n=2.$
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        @James The constant $C$ should be outside the parenthesis. That is, $$exp(-x),y=exp(-x),big(2x^2-4x-4big)+C$$ and $$y=2x^2-4x-4+Cexp(x),.$$ Since $P$ is a polynomial, $C$ must be $0$.
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      A locally nilpotent linear operator on a vector space $V$ (not necessarily finite-dimensional) over a field $mathbbK$ is a linear operator $N:Vto V$ such that, for each $vin V$, there exists a nonnegative integer $r_v$ depending on $v$ such that
      $$N^r_v(v)=0_V,.$$ Here, $N^0:=textid_V$. For such a linear operator $N$, the linear operator $textid_V-N:Vto V$ is bijective. To show this, we exhibit the inverse of $textid_V-N$ as $i(N):=sumlimits_r=0^infty,N^r$. This linear operator $i(N):Vto V$ is well defined because $N$ is locally nilpotent. It is clear that
      $$left(textid_V-Nright),i(N)=textid_V=i(N),left(textid_V-Nright),.$$



      Now, the derivative operator $D$, $Df:=f'$, is a locally nilpotent operator on the vector space $mathbbK[X]$ of polynomials in variable $X$ over an arbitrary field $mathbbK$, namely, for each $f(x)inmathbbK[x]$,
      $$D^deg(f)+1fequiv0text for fnotequiv0,,text and D^0fequiv 0text for fequiv0,.$$
      By convention, $D^0$ denotes the identity operator $I$.




      Now, we go back to the problem. Observe that $$big((I-D),Pbig)(X)=P(X)-P'(X)=2X^2-8X,.$$ By the paragraph above, $$beginalignP(X)&=(I-D)^-1,left(2X^2-8Xright)=sum_r=0^infty,D^rleft(2X^2-8Xright)\ &=(2X^2-8X)+(4X-8)+4=2X^2-4X-4,.endalign$$ That is, $P(1)=-6$.







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        A locally nilpotent linear operator on a vector space $V$ (not necessarily finite-dimensional) over a field $mathbbK$ is a linear operator $N:Vto V$ such that, for each $vin V$, there exists a nonnegative integer $r_v$ depending on $v$ such that
        $$N^r_v(v)=0_V,.$$ Here, $N^0:=textid_V$. For such a linear operator $N$, the linear operator $textid_V-N:Vto V$ is bijective. To show this, we exhibit the inverse of $textid_V-N$ as $i(N):=sumlimits_r=0^infty,N^r$. This linear operator $i(N):Vto V$ is well defined because $N$ is locally nilpotent. It is clear that
        $$left(textid_V-Nright),i(N)=textid_V=i(N),left(textid_V-Nright),.$$



        Now, the derivative operator $D$, $Df:=f'$, is a locally nilpotent operator on the vector space $mathbbK[X]$ of polynomials in variable $X$ over an arbitrary field $mathbbK$, namely, for each $f(x)inmathbbK[x]$,
        $$D^deg(f)+1fequiv0text for fnotequiv0,,text and D^0fequiv 0text for fequiv0,.$$
        By convention, $D^0$ denotes the identity operator $I$.




        Now, we go back to the problem. Observe that $$big((I-D),Pbig)(X)=P(X)-P'(X)=2X^2-8X,.$$ By the paragraph above, $$beginalignP(X)&=(I-D)^-1,left(2X^2-8Xright)=sum_r=0^infty,D^rleft(2X^2-8Xright)\ &=(2X^2-8X)+(4X-8)+4=2X^2-4X-4,.endalign$$ That is, $P(1)=-6$.







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          A locally nilpotent linear operator on a vector space $V$ (not necessarily finite-dimensional) over a field $mathbbK$ is a linear operator $N:Vto V$ such that, for each $vin V$, there exists a nonnegative integer $r_v$ depending on $v$ such that
          $$N^r_v(v)=0_V,.$$ Here, $N^0:=textid_V$. For such a linear operator $N$, the linear operator $textid_V-N:Vto V$ is bijective. To show this, we exhibit the inverse of $textid_V-N$ as $i(N):=sumlimits_r=0^infty,N^r$. This linear operator $i(N):Vto V$ is well defined because $N$ is locally nilpotent. It is clear that
          $$left(textid_V-Nright),i(N)=textid_V=i(N),left(textid_V-Nright),.$$



          Now, the derivative operator $D$, $Df:=f'$, is a locally nilpotent operator on the vector space $mathbbK[X]$ of polynomials in variable $X$ over an arbitrary field $mathbbK$, namely, for each $f(x)inmathbbK[x]$,
          $$D^deg(f)+1fequiv0text for fnotequiv0,,text and D^0fequiv 0text for fequiv0,.$$
          By convention, $D^0$ denotes the identity operator $I$.




          Now, we go back to the problem. Observe that $$big((I-D),Pbig)(X)=P(X)-P'(X)=2X^2-8X,.$$ By the paragraph above, $$beginalignP(X)&=(I-D)^-1,left(2X^2-8Xright)=sum_r=0^infty,D^rleft(2X^2-8Xright)\ &=(2X^2-8X)+(4X-8)+4=2X^2-4X-4,.endalign$$ That is, $P(1)=-6$.







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          A locally nilpotent linear operator on a vector space $V$ (not necessarily finite-dimensional) over a field $mathbbK$ is a linear operator $N:Vto V$ such that, for each $vin V$, there exists a nonnegative integer $r_v$ depending on $v$ such that
          $$N^r_v(v)=0_V,.$$ Here, $N^0:=textid_V$. For such a linear operator $N$, the linear operator $textid_V-N:Vto V$ is bijective. To show this, we exhibit the inverse of $textid_V-N$ as $i(N):=sumlimits_r=0^infty,N^r$. This linear operator $i(N):Vto V$ is well defined because $N$ is locally nilpotent. It is clear that
          $$left(textid_V-Nright),i(N)=textid_V=i(N),left(textid_V-Nright),.$$



          Now, the derivative operator $D$, $Df:=f'$, is a locally nilpotent operator on the vector space $mathbbK[X]$ of polynomials in variable $X$ over an arbitrary field $mathbbK$, namely, for each $f(x)inmathbbK[x]$,
          $$D^deg(f)+1fequiv0text for fnotequiv0,,text and D^0fequiv 0text for fequiv0,.$$
          By convention, $D^0$ denotes the identity operator $I$.




          Now, we go back to the problem. Observe that $$big((I-D),Pbig)(X)=P(X)-P'(X)=2X^2-8X,.$$ By the paragraph above, $$beginalignP(X)&=(I-D)^-1,left(2X^2-8Xright)=sum_r=0^infty,D^rleft(2X^2-8Xright)\ &=(2X^2-8X)+(4X-8)+4=2X^2-4X-4,.endalign$$ That is, $P(1)=-6$.








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              Let $P(x)$ be any n degree polynomial
              $$P(x) = a_0 + a_1 x + a_2x^2 + ... + a_nx^n$$



              $$a_0+a_1x+a_2x^2 + ... a_nx^n - (a_1+2a_2x + ...na_nx^n-1 = 2x^2 - 8x$$



              $$(a_0-a_1) + (a_1-2a_2)x + (a_2 - 3a_3)x^2 + .... = 2x^2 - 8x$$



              Now the r.h.s and l.h.s are two polynomials that are equal for all values of $x$. Therefore they must be equivalent. You should be able to proceed now..



              Cheers!






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                Let $P(x)$ be any n degree polynomial
                $$P(x) = a_0 + a_1 x + a_2x^2 + ... + a_nx^n$$



                $$a_0+a_1x+a_2x^2 + ... a_nx^n - (a_1+2a_2x + ...na_nx^n-1 = 2x^2 - 8x$$



                $$(a_0-a_1) + (a_1-2a_2)x + (a_2 - 3a_3)x^2 + .... = 2x^2 - 8x$$



                Now the r.h.s and l.h.s are two polynomials that are equal for all values of $x$. Therefore they must be equivalent. You should be able to proceed now..



                Cheers!






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                  Let $P(x)$ be any n degree polynomial
                  $$P(x) = a_0 + a_1 x + a_2x^2 + ... + a_nx^n$$



                  $$a_0+a_1x+a_2x^2 + ... a_nx^n - (a_1+2a_2x + ...na_nx^n-1 = 2x^2 - 8x$$



                  $$(a_0-a_1) + (a_1-2a_2)x + (a_2 - 3a_3)x^2 + .... = 2x^2 - 8x$$



                  Now the r.h.s and l.h.s are two polynomials that are equal for all values of $x$. Therefore they must be equivalent. You should be able to proceed now..



                  Cheers!






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                  Let $P(x)$ be any n degree polynomial
                  $$P(x) = a_0 + a_1 x + a_2x^2 + ... + a_nx^n$$



                  $$a_0+a_1x+a_2x^2 + ... a_nx^n - (a_1+2a_2x + ...na_nx^n-1 = 2x^2 - 8x$$



                  $$(a_0-a_1) + (a_1-2a_2)x + (a_2 - 3a_3)x^2 + .... = 2x^2 - 8x$$



                  Now the r.h.s and l.h.s are two polynomials that are equal for all values of $x$. Therefore they must be equivalent. You should be able to proceed now..



                  Cheers!







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                      as mentioned in the comment by @mfl that the polynomial must have degree two because if we take P as degree n polynomial then P-P' also has degree n thus n=2 because the right side polynomial is of degree 2.



                      you can solve it by taking a degree two polynomial $P(x)=ax^2+bx+c$



                      I got $b=c$ and $a=2$ and $2a-b=8$



                      thus $$P(x)=2x^2-4x-4$$
                      thus $$P(1)=2-4-4=-6$$
                      $hspace20pt$



                      Here is method two if want to solve this by differential equations



                      this is of the form $$fracdydx+P(x)y=Q(x)$$



                      $$fracdydx-y=8x-2x^2$$



                      $$P(x)=-1 space and space Q(x)=8x-2x^2$$
                      in this type of differential equations, we multiply the equation by integrating factor



                      integrating factor $$R(x)=e^int P(x) dx$$



                      thus $$R(x)=e^int -1 dx=e^-x$$



                      multiply by $R(x)$
                      $$e^-xfracdydx-e^-xy=e^-x(8x-2x^2)$$
                      $$fracd(e^-xy)dx=e^-x(8x-2x^2)$$
                      $$e^-xy=int e^-x(8x-2x^2) dx $$



                      apply integration by part two times on the right side you will get



                      $$e^-xy= e^-x(2x^2-4x-4) + C$$



                      thus $$y= 2x^2-4x-4+ C *e^x$$
                      since P is a polynomial C must be zero






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                        Note that $P$ must have degree two.
                        – mfl
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                      • @taritgoswami No. If $P$ has degree $n$ then $P'$ has degree $n-1.$ Thus $P-P'$ has degree $n.$ So we have $n=2.$
                        – mfl
                        Aug 9 at 20:40











                      • I don't know why am I being downvoted?
                        – James
                        Aug 9 at 20:48










                      • Don't worry. This happens. I have upvoted. I didn't check your answer but it is the correct way to solve the question.
                        – mfl
                        Aug 9 at 20:50






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                        @James The constant $C$ should be outside the parenthesis. That is, $$exp(-x),y=exp(-x),big(2x^2-4x-4big)+C$$ and $$y=2x^2-4x-4+Cexp(x),.$$ Since $P$ is a polynomial, $C$ must be $0$.
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                        Aug 9 at 21:43














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                      as mentioned in the comment by @mfl that the polynomial must have degree two because if we take P as degree n polynomial then P-P' also has degree n thus n=2 because the right side polynomial is of degree 2.



                      you can solve it by taking a degree two polynomial $P(x)=ax^2+bx+c$



                      I got $b=c$ and $a=2$ and $2a-b=8$



                      thus $$P(x)=2x^2-4x-4$$
                      thus $$P(1)=2-4-4=-6$$
                      $hspace20pt$



                      Here is method two if want to solve this by differential equations



                      this is of the form $$fracdydx+P(x)y=Q(x)$$



                      $$fracdydx-y=8x-2x^2$$



                      $$P(x)=-1 space and space Q(x)=8x-2x^2$$
                      in this type of differential equations, we multiply the equation by integrating factor



                      integrating factor $$R(x)=e^int P(x) dx$$



                      thus $$R(x)=e^int -1 dx=e^-x$$



                      multiply by $R(x)$
                      $$e^-xfracdydx-e^-xy=e^-x(8x-2x^2)$$
                      $$fracd(e^-xy)dx=e^-x(8x-2x^2)$$
                      $$e^-xy=int e^-x(8x-2x^2) dx $$



                      apply integration by part two times on the right side you will get



                      $$e^-xy= e^-x(2x^2-4x-4) + C$$



                      thus $$y= 2x^2-4x-4+ C *e^x$$
                      since P is a polynomial C must be zero






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                        Note that $P$ must have degree two.
                        – mfl
                        Aug 9 at 20:37










                      • @taritgoswami No. If $P$ has degree $n$ then $P'$ has degree $n-1.$ Thus $P-P'$ has degree $n.$ So we have $n=2.$
                        – mfl
                        Aug 9 at 20:40











                      • I don't know why am I being downvoted?
                        – James
                        Aug 9 at 20:48










                      • Don't worry. This happens. I have upvoted. I didn't check your answer but it is the correct way to solve the question.
                        – mfl
                        Aug 9 at 20:50






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                        @James The constant $C$ should be outside the parenthesis. That is, $$exp(-x),y=exp(-x),big(2x^2-4x-4big)+C$$ and $$y=2x^2-4x-4+Cexp(x),.$$ Since $P$ is a polynomial, $C$ must be $0$.
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                      as mentioned in the comment by @mfl that the polynomial must have degree two because if we take P as degree n polynomial then P-P' also has degree n thus n=2 because the right side polynomial is of degree 2.



                      you can solve it by taking a degree two polynomial $P(x)=ax^2+bx+c$



                      I got $b=c$ and $a=2$ and $2a-b=8$



                      thus $$P(x)=2x^2-4x-4$$
                      thus $$P(1)=2-4-4=-6$$
                      $hspace20pt$



                      Here is method two if want to solve this by differential equations



                      this is of the form $$fracdydx+P(x)y=Q(x)$$



                      $$fracdydx-y=8x-2x^2$$



                      $$P(x)=-1 space and space Q(x)=8x-2x^2$$
                      in this type of differential equations, we multiply the equation by integrating factor



                      integrating factor $$R(x)=e^int P(x) dx$$



                      thus $$R(x)=e^int -1 dx=e^-x$$



                      multiply by $R(x)$
                      $$e^-xfracdydx-e^-xy=e^-x(8x-2x^2)$$
                      $$fracd(e^-xy)dx=e^-x(8x-2x^2)$$
                      $$e^-xy=int e^-x(8x-2x^2) dx $$



                      apply integration by part two times on the right side you will get



                      $$e^-xy= e^-x(2x^2-4x-4) + C$$



                      thus $$y= 2x^2-4x-4+ C *e^x$$
                      since P is a polynomial C must be zero






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                      as mentioned in the comment by @mfl that the polynomial must have degree two because if we take P as degree n polynomial then P-P' also has degree n thus n=2 because the right side polynomial is of degree 2.



                      you can solve it by taking a degree two polynomial $P(x)=ax^2+bx+c$



                      I got $b=c$ and $a=2$ and $2a-b=8$



                      thus $$P(x)=2x^2-4x-4$$
                      thus $$P(1)=2-4-4=-6$$
                      $hspace20pt$



                      Here is method two if want to solve this by differential equations



                      this is of the form $$fracdydx+P(x)y=Q(x)$$



                      $$fracdydx-y=8x-2x^2$$



                      $$P(x)=-1 space and space Q(x)=8x-2x^2$$
                      in this type of differential equations, we multiply the equation by integrating factor



                      integrating factor $$R(x)=e^int P(x) dx$$



                      thus $$R(x)=e^int -1 dx=e^-x$$



                      multiply by $R(x)$
                      $$e^-xfracdydx-e^-xy=e^-x(8x-2x^2)$$
                      $$fracd(e^-xy)dx=e^-x(8x-2x^2)$$
                      $$e^-xy=int e^-x(8x-2x^2) dx $$



                      apply integration by part two times on the right side you will get



                      $$e^-xy= e^-x(2x^2-4x-4) + C$$



                      thus $$y= 2x^2-4x-4+ C *e^x$$
                      since P is a polynomial C must be zero







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                      answered Aug 9 at 20:31









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                        Note that $P$ must have degree two.
                        – mfl
                        Aug 9 at 20:37










                      • @taritgoswami No. If $P$ has degree $n$ then $P'$ has degree $n-1.$ Thus $P-P'$ has degree $n.$ So we have $n=2.$
                        – mfl
                        Aug 9 at 20:40











                      • I don't know why am I being downvoted?
                        – James
                        Aug 9 at 20:48










                      • Don't worry. This happens. I have upvoted. I didn't check your answer but it is the correct way to solve the question.
                        – mfl
                        Aug 9 at 20:50






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                        @James The constant $C$ should be outside the parenthesis. That is, $$exp(-x),y=exp(-x),big(2x^2-4x-4big)+C$$ and $$y=2x^2-4x-4+Cexp(x),.$$ Since $P$ is a polynomial, $C$ must be $0$.
                        – Batominovski
                        Aug 9 at 21:43












                      • 2




                        Note that $P$ must have degree two.
                        – mfl
                        Aug 9 at 20:37










                      • @taritgoswami No. If $P$ has degree $n$ then $P'$ has degree $n-1.$ Thus $P-P'$ has degree $n.$ So we have $n=2.$
                        – mfl
                        Aug 9 at 20:40











                      • I don't know why am I being downvoted?
                        – James
                        Aug 9 at 20:48










                      • Don't worry. This happens. I have upvoted. I didn't check your answer but it is the correct way to solve the question.
                        – mfl
                        Aug 9 at 20:50






                      • 1




                        @James The constant $C$ should be outside the parenthesis. That is, $$exp(-x),y=exp(-x),big(2x^2-4x-4big)+C$$ and $$y=2x^2-4x-4+Cexp(x),.$$ Since $P$ is a polynomial, $C$ must be $0$.
                        – Batominovski
                        Aug 9 at 21:43







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                      2




                      Note that $P$ must have degree two.
                      – mfl
                      Aug 9 at 20:37




                      Note that $P$ must have degree two.
                      – mfl
                      Aug 9 at 20:37












                      @taritgoswami No. If $P$ has degree $n$ then $P'$ has degree $n-1.$ Thus $P-P'$ has degree $n.$ So we have $n=2.$
                      – mfl
                      Aug 9 at 20:40





                      @taritgoswami No. If $P$ has degree $n$ then $P'$ has degree $n-1.$ Thus $P-P'$ has degree $n.$ So we have $n=2.$
                      – mfl
                      Aug 9 at 20:40













                      I don't know why am I being downvoted?
                      – James
                      Aug 9 at 20:48




                      I don't know why am I being downvoted?
                      – James
                      Aug 9 at 20:48












                      Don't worry. This happens. I have upvoted. I didn't check your answer but it is the correct way to solve the question.
                      – mfl
                      Aug 9 at 20:50




                      Don't worry. This happens. I have upvoted. I didn't check your answer but it is the correct way to solve the question.
                      – mfl
                      Aug 9 at 20:50




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                      1




                      @James The constant $C$ should be outside the parenthesis. That is, $$exp(-x),y=exp(-x),big(2x^2-4x-4big)+C$$ and $$y=2x^2-4x-4+Cexp(x),.$$ Since $P$ is a polynomial, $C$ must be $0$.
                      – Batominovski
                      Aug 9 at 21:43




                      @James The constant $C$ should be outside the parenthesis. That is, $$exp(-x),y=exp(-x),big(2x^2-4x-4big)+C$$ and $$y=2x^2-4x-4+Cexp(x),.$$ Since $P$ is a polynomial, $C$ must be $0$.
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                      Aug 9 at 21:43












                       

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