Suppose $X$ is infinite and $A$ is a finite subset of $X$. Then $X$ and $X setminus A$ are equinumerous

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Suppose that $X$ is infinite and that $A$ is a finite subset of $X$. Then $X$ and $X setminus A$ are equinumerous.





My attempt:



Let $|A|=n$. We will prove by induction on n. It's clear that the the theorem is trivially true for $n=0$. Assume the theorem is true for all $n=k$. For $n=k+1$, then $|A setminus a|=k$ for some $a in A$. Thus $X setminus (A setminus a) sim X$ by inductive hypothesis, or $(X cap a) cup (X setminus A) sim X$, or $a cup (X setminus A) sim X$. We have $a cup (X setminus A) sim X setminus A$ since the theorem is true for $n=1$. Hence $X setminus A sim a cup (X setminus A) sim X$. Thus $X setminus A sim X$. This completes the proof.





Does this proof look fine or contain gaps? Do you have suggestions? Many thanks for your dedicated help!





Update: Here I prove that the theorem is true for $n=1$.



Assume that $A = a$ and consequently $X setminus A= X setminusa$. It's clear that $|X setminus A| le |X|$. Next we prove that $|X| le |X setminus A|$. Since $X$ is infinite, there exists $B subsetneq X$ such that $B sim X$ (Here we assume Axiom of Countable Choice). Thus $|X|=|B|$. There are only two possible cases.



  1. $a in X setminus B$

Then $B subseteq X setminus a=X setminus A$ and consequently $|X|=|B| le |X setminus A|$. Thus $|X| le |X setminus A|$ and $|X setminus A| le |X|$. By Schröder–Bernstein theorem, we have $|X setminus A| = |X|$. It follows that $X setminus A sim X$.



  1. $a in B$.

Let $b in X setminus B$. We define a bijection $f:X setminus a to X setminus b$ by $f(x)= x$ for all $x in X setminus a,b$ and $f(b)=a$. Thus $X setminus a sim X setminus b$. Since $b in X setminus B$, it follows from Case 1 that $X setminus b sim X$. Hence $X setminus a sim X setminus b sim X$. Thus $X setminus a = X setminus A sim X$.



To sum up, $X setminus A sim X$ for all $|A|=1$.










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  • What's your definition of $X$ being infinite?
    – Paul K
    Sep 10 at 15:51










  • @PaulK $X$ is infinite if and only if $X$ is not finite.
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 10 at 15:55










  • @PaulK of infinite cardinality
    – Michał Zapała
    Sep 10 at 15:57










  • The proof is somewhat lacking in elegance, but formally correct
    – Michał Zapała
    Sep 10 at 15:58










  • @MichałZapała I'm very curious about your elegant approach. Could you please elaborate on it?
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 10 at 16:08














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Suppose that $X$ is infinite and that $A$ is a finite subset of $X$. Then $X$ and $X setminus A$ are equinumerous.





My attempt:



Let $|A|=n$. We will prove by induction on n. It's clear that the the theorem is trivially true for $n=0$. Assume the theorem is true for all $n=k$. For $n=k+1$, then $|A setminus a|=k$ for some $a in A$. Thus $X setminus (A setminus a) sim X$ by inductive hypothesis, or $(X cap a) cup (X setminus A) sim X$, or $a cup (X setminus A) sim X$. We have $a cup (X setminus A) sim X setminus A$ since the theorem is true for $n=1$. Hence $X setminus A sim a cup (X setminus A) sim X$. Thus $X setminus A sim X$. This completes the proof.





Does this proof look fine or contain gaps? Do you have suggestions? Many thanks for your dedicated help!





Update: Here I prove that the theorem is true for $n=1$.



Assume that $A = a$ and consequently $X setminus A= X setminusa$. It's clear that $|X setminus A| le |X|$. Next we prove that $|X| le |X setminus A|$. Since $X$ is infinite, there exists $B subsetneq X$ such that $B sim X$ (Here we assume Axiom of Countable Choice). Thus $|X|=|B|$. There are only two possible cases.



  1. $a in X setminus B$

Then $B subseteq X setminus a=X setminus A$ and consequently $|X|=|B| le |X setminus A|$. Thus $|X| le |X setminus A|$ and $|X setminus A| le |X|$. By Schröder–Bernstein theorem, we have $|X setminus A| = |X|$. It follows that $X setminus A sim X$.



  1. $a in B$.

Let $b in X setminus B$. We define a bijection $f:X setminus a to X setminus b$ by $f(x)= x$ for all $x in X setminus a,b$ and $f(b)=a$. Thus $X setminus a sim X setminus b$. Since $b in X setminus B$, it follows from Case 1 that $X setminus b sim X$. Hence $X setminus a sim X setminus b sim X$. Thus $X setminus a = X setminus A sim X$.



To sum up, $X setminus A sim X$ for all $|A|=1$.










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  • What's your definition of $X$ being infinite?
    – Paul K
    Sep 10 at 15:51










  • @PaulK $X$ is infinite if and only if $X$ is not finite.
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 10 at 15:55










  • @PaulK of infinite cardinality
    – Michał Zapała
    Sep 10 at 15:57










  • The proof is somewhat lacking in elegance, but formally correct
    – Michał Zapała
    Sep 10 at 15:58










  • @MichałZapała I'm very curious about your elegant approach. Could you please elaborate on it?
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 10 at 16:08












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up vote
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Suppose that $X$ is infinite and that $A$ is a finite subset of $X$. Then $X$ and $X setminus A$ are equinumerous.





My attempt:



Let $|A|=n$. We will prove by induction on n. It's clear that the the theorem is trivially true for $n=0$. Assume the theorem is true for all $n=k$. For $n=k+1$, then $|A setminus a|=k$ for some $a in A$. Thus $X setminus (A setminus a) sim X$ by inductive hypothesis, or $(X cap a) cup (X setminus A) sim X$, or $a cup (X setminus A) sim X$. We have $a cup (X setminus A) sim X setminus A$ since the theorem is true for $n=1$. Hence $X setminus A sim a cup (X setminus A) sim X$. Thus $X setminus A sim X$. This completes the proof.





Does this proof look fine or contain gaps? Do you have suggestions? Many thanks for your dedicated help!





Update: Here I prove that the theorem is true for $n=1$.



Assume that $A = a$ and consequently $X setminus A= X setminusa$. It's clear that $|X setminus A| le |X|$. Next we prove that $|X| le |X setminus A|$. Since $X$ is infinite, there exists $B subsetneq X$ such that $B sim X$ (Here we assume Axiom of Countable Choice). Thus $|X|=|B|$. There are only two possible cases.



  1. $a in X setminus B$

Then $B subseteq X setminus a=X setminus A$ and consequently $|X|=|B| le |X setminus A|$. Thus $|X| le |X setminus A|$ and $|X setminus A| le |X|$. By Schröder–Bernstein theorem, we have $|X setminus A| = |X|$. It follows that $X setminus A sim X$.



  1. $a in B$.

Let $b in X setminus B$. We define a bijection $f:X setminus a to X setminus b$ by $f(x)= x$ for all $x in X setminus a,b$ and $f(b)=a$. Thus $X setminus a sim X setminus b$. Since $b in X setminus B$, it follows from Case 1 that $X setminus b sim X$. Hence $X setminus a sim X setminus b sim X$. Thus $X setminus a = X setminus A sim X$.



To sum up, $X setminus A sim X$ for all $|A|=1$.










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Suppose that $X$ is infinite and that $A$ is a finite subset of $X$. Then $X$ and $X setminus A$ are equinumerous.





My attempt:



Let $|A|=n$. We will prove by induction on n. It's clear that the the theorem is trivially true for $n=0$. Assume the theorem is true for all $n=k$. For $n=k+1$, then $|A setminus a|=k$ for some $a in A$. Thus $X setminus (A setminus a) sim X$ by inductive hypothesis, or $(X cap a) cup (X setminus A) sim X$, or $a cup (X setminus A) sim X$. We have $a cup (X setminus A) sim X setminus A$ since the theorem is true for $n=1$. Hence $X setminus A sim a cup (X setminus A) sim X$. Thus $X setminus A sim X$. This completes the proof.





Does this proof look fine or contain gaps? Do you have suggestions? Many thanks for your dedicated help!





Update: Here I prove that the theorem is true for $n=1$.



Assume that $A = a$ and consequently $X setminus A= X setminusa$. It's clear that $|X setminus A| le |X|$. Next we prove that $|X| le |X setminus A|$. Since $X$ is infinite, there exists $B subsetneq X$ such that $B sim X$ (Here we assume Axiom of Countable Choice). Thus $|X|=|B|$. There are only two possible cases.



  1. $a in X setminus B$

Then $B subseteq X setminus a=X setminus A$ and consequently $|X|=|B| le |X setminus A|$. Thus $|X| le |X setminus A|$ and $|X setminus A| le |X|$. By Schröder–Bernstein theorem, we have $|X setminus A| = |X|$. It follows that $X setminus A sim X$.



  1. $a in B$.

Let $b in X setminus B$. We define a bijection $f:X setminus a to X setminus b$ by $f(x)= x$ for all $x in X setminus a,b$ and $f(b)=a$. Thus $X setminus a sim X setminus b$. Since $b in X setminus B$, it follows from Case 1 that $X setminus b sim X$. Hence $X setminus a sim X setminus b sim X$. Thus $X setminus a = X setminus A sim X$.



To sum up, $X setminus A sim X$ for all $|A|=1$.







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  • What's your definition of $X$ being infinite?
    – Paul K
    Sep 10 at 15:51










  • @PaulK $X$ is infinite if and only if $X$ is not finite.
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 10 at 15:55










  • @PaulK of infinite cardinality
    – Michał Zapała
    Sep 10 at 15:57










  • The proof is somewhat lacking in elegance, but formally correct
    – Michał Zapała
    Sep 10 at 15:58










  • @MichałZapała I'm very curious about your elegant approach. Could you please elaborate on it?
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 10 at 16:08
















  • What's your definition of $X$ being infinite?
    – Paul K
    Sep 10 at 15:51










  • @PaulK $X$ is infinite if and only if $X$ is not finite.
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 10 at 15:55










  • @PaulK of infinite cardinality
    – Michał Zapała
    Sep 10 at 15:57










  • The proof is somewhat lacking in elegance, but formally correct
    – Michał Zapała
    Sep 10 at 15:58










  • @MichałZapała I'm very curious about your elegant approach. Could you please elaborate on it?
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 10 at 16:08















What's your definition of $X$ being infinite?
– Paul K
Sep 10 at 15:51




What's your definition of $X$ being infinite?
– Paul K
Sep 10 at 15:51












@PaulK $X$ is infinite if and only if $X$ is not finite.
– Le Anh Dung
Sep 10 at 15:55




@PaulK $X$ is infinite if and only if $X$ is not finite.
– Le Anh Dung
Sep 10 at 15:55












@PaulK of infinite cardinality
– Michał Zapała
Sep 10 at 15:57




@PaulK of infinite cardinality
– Michał Zapała
Sep 10 at 15:57












The proof is somewhat lacking in elegance, but formally correct
– Michał Zapała
Sep 10 at 15:58




The proof is somewhat lacking in elegance, but formally correct
– Michał Zapała
Sep 10 at 15:58












@MichałZapała I'm very curious about your elegant approach. Could you please elaborate on it?
– Le Anh Dung
Sep 10 at 16:08




@MichałZapała I'm very curious about your elegant approach. Could you please elaborate on it?
– Le Anh Dung
Sep 10 at 16:08










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The proof (with the update) seems correct.



Assuming choice (or at least countable choice), we can do it perhaps more easily.



Since $A$ is finite, there is a bijection $gcolon0,1,dots,n-1to A$, for some $ninmathbbN$.



Fix an injection $fcolonmathbbNto Xsetminus A$ (which exists because $Xsetminus A$ is infinite, assuming countable choice) and define $psicolon Xsetminus Ato X$ by
$$
psi(x)=begincases
x & xnotin f(mathbbN) \[4px]
g(m) & x=f(m),quad 0 le m < n \[4px]
f(m-n) & x=f(m),quad m ge n
endcases
$$
Prove $psi$ is a bijection.






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  • Thank you so much!
    – Le Anh Dung
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  • After I read your answer carefully, I found that your approach is much more elegant and simpler than mine. I decided to re-formalize it into a proof in my own words and posted as an answer at the end of this thread. If you don't mind, please have a look at it! Many thanks for you!
    – Le Anh Dung
    Sep 12 at 11:13










  • Typo: I think you mean $psi(x) = f(m-n)$ when $x = f(m)$, $m ge n$.
    – Dan Velleman
    Sep 13 at 21:32










  • @DanVelleman Thanks for noting!
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Your proof is correct except for the step where you say that $a cup (X setminus A) sim X setminus A$ by inductive hypothesis. I assume you are applying the inductive hypothesis (to the set $a cup (X setminus A)$) in the case $n=1$, which is fine as long as $k ge 1$. But your proof does not work in the case $k=0$. In other words, your proof correctly shows that if the theorem holds for $n=1$, then it holds for all larger values of $n$. But it does not prove that it holds for $n=1$.



In fact, the proof for $n=1$ is rather tricky. Here's a nice exercise: prove that the $n=1$ case for an infinite set $X$ is equivalent to the statement that $X$ contains a subset that is equinumerous to the set of positive integers. Now, the statement that every infinite set contains a subset equinumerous with the positive integers cannot be proven without some form of the axiom of choice. Therefore the proof of the $n=1$ case will also require the axiom of choice.






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    I found that @egreg's solution is very elegant, so I want to re-formalize it into the below proof. All credits go to @egreg.




    Lemma 1: If $A$ is finite and $B$ is countably infinite, then $Acup B$ is countably infinite.



    Lemma 2: If $X$ is infinite and $A$ is finite, then $Xsetminus A$ is infinite.



    Lemma 3: If $Y$ is infinite, then there exists $Bsubsetneq Y$ such that $B$ is countably infinite. (Here we assume Axiom of Countable Choice)




    Since $X$ is infinite and $A$ is finite, then $Xsetminus A$ is infinite by Lemma 2.



    Since $Xsetminus A$ is infinite, there exists $Bsubsetneq Xsetminus A$ such that $B sim Bbb N$ by Lemma 3.



    Since $A$ is finite and $B$ is countably infinite, then $Acup B sim Bbb N$ by Lemma 1.



    Since $B sim Bbb N$ and $Acup B sim Bbb N$, $B sim Acup B$ and thus there exists an bijection $f_1:B to Acup B$.



    Let $f_2:Xsetminus Asetminus B to Xsetminus Asetminus B$ be the identity map on $Xsetminus Asetminus B$. Then $f_2$ is a bijection.



    We define $f:Xsetminus A to X$ by $f(x)=f_2(x)$ for all $x in Xsetminus Asetminus B$ and $f(x)=f_1(x)$ for all $x in B$. Thus $f$ is a bijection.



    Hence $Xsetminus A sim X$.






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      The proof (with the update) seems correct.



      Assuming choice (or at least countable choice), we can do it perhaps more easily.



      Since $A$ is finite, there is a bijection $gcolon0,1,dots,n-1to A$, for some $ninmathbbN$.



      Fix an injection $fcolonmathbbNto Xsetminus A$ (which exists because $Xsetminus A$ is infinite, assuming countable choice) and define $psicolon Xsetminus Ato X$ by
      $$
      psi(x)=begincases
      x & xnotin f(mathbbN) \[4px]
      g(m) & x=f(m),quad 0 le m < n \[4px]
      f(m-n) & x=f(m),quad m ge n
      endcases
      $$
      Prove $psi$ is a bijection.






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      • Thank you so much!
        – Le Anh Dung
        Sep 12 at 8:55










      • After I read your answer carefully, I found that your approach is much more elegant and simpler than mine. I decided to re-formalize it into a proof in my own words and posted as an answer at the end of this thread. If you don't mind, please have a look at it! Many thanks for you!
        – Le Anh Dung
        Sep 12 at 11:13










      • Typo: I think you mean $psi(x) = f(m-n)$ when $x = f(m)$, $m ge n$.
        – Dan Velleman
        Sep 13 at 21:32










      • @DanVelleman Thanks for noting!
        – egreg
        Sep 13 at 21:34














      up vote
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      accepted










      The proof (with the update) seems correct.



      Assuming choice (or at least countable choice), we can do it perhaps more easily.



      Since $A$ is finite, there is a bijection $gcolon0,1,dots,n-1to A$, for some $ninmathbbN$.



      Fix an injection $fcolonmathbbNto Xsetminus A$ (which exists because $Xsetminus A$ is infinite, assuming countable choice) and define $psicolon Xsetminus Ato X$ by
      $$
      psi(x)=begincases
      x & xnotin f(mathbbN) \[4px]
      g(m) & x=f(m),quad 0 le m < n \[4px]
      f(m-n) & x=f(m),quad m ge n
      endcases
      $$
      Prove $psi$ is a bijection.






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      • Thank you so much!
        – Le Anh Dung
        Sep 12 at 8:55










      • After I read your answer carefully, I found that your approach is much more elegant and simpler than mine. I decided to re-formalize it into a proof in my own words and posted as an answer at the end of this thread. If you don't mind, please have a look at it! Many thanks for you!
        – Le Anh Dung
        Sep 12 at 11:13










      • Typo: I think you mean $psi(x) = f(m-n)$ when $x = f(m)$, $m ge n$.
        – Dan Velleman
        Sep 13 at 21:32










      • @DanVelleman Thanks for noting!
        – egreg
        Sep 13 at 21:34












      up vote
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      up vote
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      The proof (with the update) seems correct.



      Assuming choice (or at least countable choice), we can do it perhaps more easily.



      Since $A$ is finite, there is a bijection $gcolon0,1,dots,n-1to A$, for some $ninmathbbN$.



      Fix an injection $fcolonmathbbNto Xsetminus A$ (which exists because $Xsetminus A$ is infinite, assuming countable choice) and define $psicolon Xsetminus Ato X$ by
      $$
      psi(x)=begincases
      x & xnotin f(mathbbN) \[4px]
      g(m) & x=f(m),quad 0 le m < n \[4px]
      f(m-n) & x=f(m),quad m ge n
      endcases
      $$
      Prove $psi$ is a bijection.






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      The proof (with the update) seems correct.



      Assuming choice (or at least countable choice), we can do it perhaps more easily.



      Since $A$ is finite, there is a bijection $gcolon0,1,dots,n-1to A$, for some $ninmathbbN$.



      Fix an injection $fcolonmathbbNto Xsetminus A$ (which exists because $Xsetminus A$ is infinite, assuming countable choice) and define $psicolon Xsetminus Ato X$ by
      $$
      psi(x)=begincases
      x & xnotin f(mathbbN) \[4px]
      g(m) & x=f(m),quad 0 le m < n \[4px]
      f(m-n) & x=f(m),quad m ge n
      endcases
      $$
      Prove $psi$ is a bijection.







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      • Thank you so much!
        – Le Anh Dung
        Sep 12 at 8:55










      • After I read your answer carefully, I found that your approach is much more elegant and simpler than mine. I decided to re-formalize it into a proof in my own words and posted as an answer at the end of this thread. If you don't mind, please have a look at it! Many thanks for you!
        – Le Anh Dung
        Sep 12 at 11:13










      • Typo: I think you mean $psi(x) = f(m-n)$ when $x = f(m)$, $m ge n$.
        – Dan Velleman
        Sep 13 at 21:32










      • @DanVelleman Thanks for noting!
        – egreg
        Sep 13 at 21:34
















      • Thank you so much!
        – Le Anh Dung
        Sep 12 at 8:55










      • After I read your answer carefully, I found that your approach is much more elegant and simpler than mine. I decided to re-formalize it into a proof in my own words and posted as an answer at the end of this thread. If you don't mind, please have a look at it! Many thanks for you!
        – Le Anh Dung
        Sep 12 at 11:13










      • Typo: I think you mean $psi(x) = f(m-n)$ when $x = f(m)$, $m ge n$.
        – Dan Velleman
        Sep 13 at 21:32










      • @DanVelleman Thanks for noting!
        – egreg
        Sep 13 at 21:34















      Thank you so much!
      – Le Anh Dung
      Sep 12 at 8:55




      Thank you so much!
      – Le Anh Dung
      Sep 12 at 8:55












      After I read your answer carefully, I found that your approach is much more elegant and simpler than mine. I decided to re-formalize it into a proof in my own words and posted as an answer at the end of this thread. If you don't mind, please have a look at it! Many thanks for you!
      – Le Anh Dung
      Sep 12 at 11:13




      After I read your answer carefully, I found that your approach is much more elegant and simpler than mine. I decided to re-formalize it into a proof in my own words and posted as an answer at the end of this thread. If you don't mind, please have a look at it! Many thanks for you!
      – Le Anh Dung
      Sep 12 at 11:13












      Typo: I think you mean $psi(x) = f(m-n)$ when $x = f(m)$, $m ge n$.
      – Dan Velleman
      Sep 13 at 21:32




      Typo: I think you mean $psi(x) = f(m-n)$ when $x = f(m)$, $m ge n$.
      – Dan Velleman
      Sep 13 at 21:32












      @DanVelleman Thanks for noting!
      – egreg
      Sep 13 at 21:34




      @DanVelleman Thanks for noting!
      – egreg
      Sep 13 at 21:34










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      Your proof is correct except for the step where you say that $a cup (X setminus A) sim X setminus A$ by inductive hypothesis. I assume you are applying the inductive hypothesis (to the set $a cup (X setminus A)$) in the case $n=1$, which is fine as long as $k ge 1$. But your proof does not work in the case $k=0$. In other words, your proof correctly shows that if the theorem holds for $n=1$, then it holds for all larger values of $n$. But it does not prove that it holds for $n=1$.



      In fact, the proof for $n=1$ is rather tricky. Here's a nice exercise: prove that the $n=1$ case for an infinite set $X$ is equivalent to the statement that $X$ contains a subset that is equinumerous to the set of positive integers. Now, the statement that every infinite set contains a subset equinumerous with the positive integers cannot be proven without some form of the axiom of choice. Therefore the proof of the $n=1$ case will also require the axiom of choice.






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        Your proof is correct except for the step where you say that $a cup (X setminus A) sim X setminus A$ by inductive hypothesis. I assume you are applying the inductive hypothesis (to the set $a cup (X setminus A)$) in the case $n=1$, which is fine as long as $k ge 1$. But your proof does not work in the case $k=0$. In other words, your proof correctly shows that if the theorem holds for $n=1$, then it holds for all larger values of $n$. But it does not prove that it holds for $n=1$.



        In fact, the proof for $n=1$ is rather tricky. Here's a nice exercise: prove that the $n=1$ case for an infinite set $X$ is equivalent to the statement that $X$ contains a subset that is equinumerous to the set of positive integers. Now, the statement that every infinite set contains a subset equinumerous with the positive integers cannot be proven without some form of the axiom of choice. Therefore the proof of the $n=1$ case will also require the axiom of choice.






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          Your proof is correct except for the step where you say that $a cup (X setminus A) sim X setminus A$ by inductive hypothesis. I assume you are applying the inductive hypothesis (to the set $a cup (X setminus A)$) in the case $n=1$, which is fine as long as $k ge 1$. But your proof does not work in the case $k=0$. In other words, your proof correctly shows that if the theorem holds for $n=1$, then it holds for all larger values of $n$. But it does not prove that it holds for $n=1$.



          In fact, the proof for $n=1$ is rather tricky. Here's a nice exercise: prove that the $n=1$ case for an infinite set $X$ is equivalent to the statement that $X$ contains a subset that is equinumerous to the set of positive integers. Now, the statement that every infinite set contains a subset equinumerous with the positive integers cannot be proven without some form of the axiom of choice. Therefore the proof of the $n=1$ case will also require the axiom of choice.






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          Your proof is correct except for the step where you say that $a cup (X setminus A) sim X setminus A$ by inductive hypothesis. I assume you are applying the inductive hypothesis (to the set $a cup (X setminus A)$) in the case $n=1$, which is fine as long as $k ge 1$. But your proof does not work in the case $k=0$. In other words, your proof correctly shows that if the theorem holds for $n=1$, then it holds for all larger values of $n$. But it does not prove that it holds for $n=1$.



          In fact, the proof for $n=1$ is rather tricky. Here's a nice exercise: prove that the $n=1$ case for an infinite set $X$ is equivalent to the statement that $X$ contains a subset that is equinumerous to the set of positive integers. Now, the statement that every infinite set contains a subset equinumerous with the positive integers cannot be proven without some form of the axiom of choice. Therefore the proof of the $n=1$ case will also require the axiom of choice.







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              I found that @egreg's solution is very elegant, so I want to re-formalize it into the below proof. All credits go to @egreg.




              Lemma 1: If $A$ is finite and $B$ is countably infinite, then $Acup B$ is countably infinite.



              Lemma 2: If $X$ is infinite and $A$ is finite, then $Xsetminus A$ is infinite.



              Lemma 3: If $Y$ is infinite, then there exists $Bsubsetneq Y$ such that $B$ is countably infinite. (Here we assume Axiom of Countable Choice)




              Since $X$ is infinite and $A$ is finite, then $Xsetminus A$ is infinite by Lemma 2.



              Since $Xsetminus A$ is infinite, there exists $Bsubsetneq Xsetminus A$ such that $B sim Bbb N$ by Lemma 3.



              Since $A$ is finite and $B$ is countably infinite, then $Acup B sim Bbb N$ by Lemma 1.



              Since $B sim Bbb N$ and $Acup B sim Bbb N$, $B sim Acup B$ and thus there exists an bijection $f_1:B to Acup B$.



              Let $f_2:Xsetminus Asetminus B to Xsetminus Asetminus B$ be the identity map on $Xsetminus Asetminus B$. Then $f_2$ is a bijection.



              We define $f:Xsetminus A to X$ by $f(x)=f_2(x)$ for all $x in Xsetminus Asetminus B$ and $f(x)=f_1(x)$ for all $x in B$. Thus $f$ is a bijection.



              Hence $Xsetminus A sim X$.






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                I found that @egreg's solution is very elegant, so I want to re-formalize it into the below proof. All credits go to @egreg.




                Lemma 1: If $A$ is finite and $B$ is countably infinite, then $Acup B$ is countably infinite.



                Lemma 2: If $X$ is infinite and $A$ is finite, then $Xsetminus A$ is infinite.



                Lemma 3: If $Y$ is infinite, then there exists $Bsubsetneq Y$ such that $B$ is countably infinite. (Here we assume Axiom of Countable Choice)




                Since $X$ is infinite and $A$ is finite, then $Xsetminus A$ is infinite by Lemma 2.



                Since $Xsetminus A$ is infinite, there exists $Bsubsetneq Xsetminus A$ such that $B sim Bbb N$ by Lemma 3.



                Since $A$ is finite and $B$ is countably infinite, then $Acup B sim Bbb N$ by Lemma 1.



                Since $B sim Bbb N$ and $Acup B sim Bbb N$, $B sim Acup B$ and thus there exists an bijection $f_1:B to Acup B$.



                Let $f_2:Xsetminus Asetminus B to Xsetminus Asetminus B$ be the identity map on $Xsetminus Asetminus B$. Then $f_2$ is a bijection.



                We define $f:Xsetminus A to X$ by $f(x)=f_2(x)$ for all $x in Xsetminus Asetminus B$ and $f(x)=f_1(x)$ for all $x in B$. Thus $f$ is a bijection.



                Hence $Xsetminus A sim X$.






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                  I found that @egreg's solution is very elegant, so I want to re-formalize it into the below proof. All credits go to @egreg.




                  Lemma 1: If $A$ is finite and $B$ is countably infinite, then $Acup B$ is countably infinite.



                  Lemma 2: If $X$ is infinite and $A$ is finite, then $Xsetminus A$ is infinite.



                  Lemma 3: If $Y$ is infinite, then there exists $Bsubsetneq Y$ such that $B$ is countably infinite. (Here we assume Axiom of Countable Choice)




                  Since $X$ is infinite and $A$ is finite, then $Xsetminus A$ is infinite by Lemma 2.



                  Since $Xsetminus A$ is infinite, there exists $Bsubsetneq Xsetminus A$ such that $B sim Bbb N$ by Lemma 3.



                  Since $A$ is finite and $B$ is countably infinite, then $Acup B sim Bbb N$ by Lemma 1.



                  Since $B sim Bbb N$ and $Acup B sim Bbb N$, $B sim Acup B$ and thus there exists an bijection $f_1:B to Acup B$.



                  Let $f_2:Xsetminus Asetminus B to Xsetminus Asetminus B$ be the identity map on $Xsetminus Asetminus B$. Then $f_2$ is a bijection.



                  We define $f:Xsetminus A to X$ by $f(x)=f_2(x)$ for all $x in Xsetminus Asetminus B$ and $f(x)=f_1(x)$ for all $x in B$. Thus $f$ is a bijection.



                  Hence $Xsetminus A sim X$.






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                  I found that @egreg's solution is very elegant, so I want to re-formalize it into the below proof. All credits go to @egreg.




                  Lemma 1: If $A$ is finite and $B$ is countably infinite, then $Acup B$ is countably infinite.



                  Lemma 2: If $X$ is infinite and $A$ is finite, then $Xsetminus A$ is infinite.



                  Lemma 3: If $Y$ is infinite, then there exists $Bsubsetneq Y$ such that $B$ is countably infinite. (Here we assume Axiom of Countable Choice)




                  Since $X$ is infinite and $A$ is finite, then $Xsetminus A$ is infinite by Lemma 2.



                  Since $Xsetminus A$ is infinite, there exists $Bsubsetneq Xsetminus A$ such that $B sim Bbb N$ by Lemma 3.



                  Since $A$ is finite and $B$ is countably infinite, then $Acup B sim Bbb N$ by Lemma 1.



                  Since $B sim Bbb N$ and $Acup B sim Bbb N$, $B sim Acup B$ and thus there exists an bijection $f_1:B to Acup B$.



                  Let $f_2:Xsetminus Asetminus B to Xsetminus Asetminus B$ be the identity map on $Xsetminus Asetminus B$. Then $f_2$ is a bijection.



                  We define $f:Xsetminus A to X$ by $f(x)=f_2(x)$ for all $x in Xsetminus Asetminus B$ and $f(x)=f_1(x)$ for all $x in B$. Thus $f$ is a bijection.



                  Hence $Xsetminus A sim X$.







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